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Asher Elias:
Hello friends. How y'all doing? There we go. Sorry for ruining any bingo squares by being here on time. We had a relatively short Illum meeting. Shout out to all the directors taking time out of their Saturdays to have a meeting to ensure that you guys have a fun time playing Eve Online. Shout out to all the directors. We appreciate you.
Alright, speaking of admirable nerds, yesterday on the Rampage Inc. stream, we did a fundraiser to support cancer research and generous goons and other people donated over $11,400 towards cancer research. So shout out to all of you guys, everyone who came, everyone who donated. Much appreciated. Appreciate everyone who donated, everyone who spent their time. Collective Fuck Cancer. That's, over $20,000 raised over the last two years. And, I'm told Innominate's parents are blown away. So just amazing stuff.
All right. Lemme talk about some space business.
PI, I know you guys love PI's. That's why I always lead with it. It's your favorite topic. You guys love talking about it. I love talking about it. Wicked Creek and Detorid should all be set to 1%. So if you are waiting to set up PI in Wicked Creek or Detorid, those should now be 1% according to, my friend Beyondnoxx, who has told me this. If he's wrong, blame him. Insmother was set last week, so that should be 1% already as well. And, yeah, Insmother and, sorry, PI is, quite profitable from what I'm told as well. We will get to Scalding Pass, Verticus. You have to go to every planet to do it. It is a real pain. That is why it's not just done, by a click of a button. That would be much easier.
Speaking of click of a button though. And Scalding Pass. Good segue. We have confirmed well Snipereagle has requested, I don't call this what it is, so let's just say that the United Nations will have to be called in and you'll have to be sanctioned for what you do to the rats. Goons have offered bounties, increased bounties on 1 million rats in Scalding Pass in several constellations. There's a job now in the alliance MOTD, in the alliance chat MOTD. You basically get an extra 50,000 per rat. It's essentially like adding a frigate kill to every rat. It's about 2 million extra per site for ratting in Scalding Pass. I was the first rat killer. I will be the number one rat killer in Scalding Pass. Do not even try. I already got a head start. If you look at the job right now, one rat has been killed. That was me. I'm ahead of all of you and you will not catch up.
Snipereagle1:
We probably need to make a change to it. There's a, there's a limit per contributor that got set that needs to get fixed. I don't know if we need to recreate the job or if we can edit the existing one, but Kaz...
Kazanir:
Thank you for making this your lead thing after we came up with it five minutes ago.
Asher Elias:
Listen.
Kazanir:
Good god.
Asher Elias:
Listen, the guy sent me in with a segue. What do you want me to do?
Snipereagle1:
To our sponsor?
Asher Elias:
All right. We will, we will, we'll figure it out. But yeah, we are gonna pay you to kill a million rats in Scalding Pass, in systems outside of Beehive range.
Alright, so we're also doing a coord recruitment. Oh, it is? It's canceled. That's my one rat. That's my lead. Now I don't have a head start, guys. Yeah. You know what? You're right. I did win. I was the winner. Round two. I'm still gonna win. Yeah, we want to raise ADMs over there, so we're incentivizing killing rats in the Western constellation in Scalding Pass.
Kazanir:
Okay, the new job is now correctly posted. I hope.
Snipereagle1:
That looks good. It no longer shows that message about limit per contributor so I think we're good.
Asher Elias:
All right. I have accepted it. I'm currently killing rats while doing the fireside. My Ishtar is spinning. I, there. Okay. One just died, right. Accepted it. I should be in the lead again. Yep. That is correct. There is one rat killed and I am the person who killed it. Head start again.
All right. We are doing coord recruitment if you want to help out the alliance in, basically we have strategic objectives, we need them to get done. Coord is the people who do that.
https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/372827-gsf-coordinators-recruitment-drive-summer-2025/
If you wanna talk about a strategic objective we have coming up right now, in about 24 hours from now, we are anchoring a Keepstar in I-6, which is, deep in the heart of Cache. I dunno if you guys have heard, but the stars at night are big and bright, deep in the heart of Cachemas and we will be anchoring a Keepstar there in 24 hours. I don't anticipate Horde coming, but we will obviously form up for it. I was just talking about this with the guys about how, isn't it crazy that we're literally deep into Cache putting a Keepstar down and Horde is oh, that's not really our space. And it's at what point do we get to just, do they, we just let them define what their space is. We wanna know where the borders are. Someone tell us. I will confirm that I killed the second rat and the job did go up to a hundred thousand ISK, so it is now working. So at least two rats work on this job and I am two of the 1 million rats.
I, we will find out where the borders are. They keep moving back. It's pretty amazing, truly impressive what flood planes are. By the way, I did like the floor, the Horde floodplain thing because you know, we said flood plains and then we fought and used them and defended them for months on end. That's what flood plains were. It wasn't just like, give up and run away.
All right. Sniper, I, I've already forgotten about your Equinox upgrade thing. Can you talk about it for a second?
Snipereagle1:
Yep. I will drop the link to that as well. I updated the upgrade map. It's not, there's a handful of small changes to the previous version. Immensea is still in progress and will be added to the sheet soon. There's also, now I added it as part of my export scripts. There's now a first party link to a rift compatible export, so that other people don't have to create those. And I will drop a link to the thread about it now and people now see why we're raising Scalding ADMs 'cause an I-HUB is getting hacked.
https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/371770-equinox-upgrade-information-station/
Asher Elias:
Yeah, exactly. Of course. Alright, friends, that is actually mostly what I wanna talk about. I did wanna shoutout goons, again for $11,400 in cancer research. If you guys have questions, throw them in Elysium right now. Not on mumble, in Elysium on Jabber. The channel is conference.goonfleet Elysium. I forget how it's, but it's Elysium.
elysium@conference.goonfleet.com.
There you go. Thank you.
Alt corp moons. I don't know the answer to that question.
When Leshaks? Is Zintage here? He can answer that question.
How are allies doing in the new space? Excellent question super magnet. They're getting jump bridges probably next week, and they're pretty excited about that, but they're settling in well.
We had a question about a GEZ, I don't know the answer to that question.
Thoughts on the incursion sig? They're doing great work. We have had a lot of incursions and a lot of money's being made.
I noticed no new fancy ship in the stupid idiot fleet doctrine. I don't know what that means just in case, but, i'm not sure.
Jason asked a question about mercenary dens from blues in our space in goon space, and can we destroy them? I don't know the answer to that. I'll try to find that out for you, Jason. I don't wanna make a guess on that one.
Snipereagle1:
They should not have them. Find a Diplo. Ask your corp leadership to ping a diplo for you.
Asher Elias:
Asks why is there no FC pinging for defense fleets to roam Scalding Pass and so on. It could reinforce Scalding Pass and discourage any troll toasting. So, as soon as you head over there, they're just gonna run away, and so it's something where you don't wanna waste time for people. It's not something where you need to send a giant fleet to stop the one person who's in, you know, a, rifer or whatever hitting the thing.
Three farms and a headshot is mentioned for the incursion squad. Yeah.
I currently am up 400,000 isk from these bounties so far, by the way. I am the leader on the board.
All right. Whatever questions do we have in here.
Yeah. Sharad says, jump in a Jaguar and go stop them. Exactly. That's the best way to do it.
Asher just paying himself. Indeed. Just funneling the money to me and you guys can't stop me.
Is it still not worth it to train a lancer dread? Is it worth it? I mean, we don't really have a ton of uses for them. Every now and again, there's a use for them, but it's one of those things where you know, do it for yourself and because you like the ship, not because it's gonna be strategically super valuable.
Kazanir:
If you're, if you're a mature capital pilot, you're really at the end of all your trains, you're at a, you know, you're at a perfect dread pilot. You've got your Titan skills on that alt. Even maybe you don't have a Titan, but you really have run out of stuff to train on a focused capital gunnery alt. Then maybe, yeah, you do train lancer at that point, but that's where you should be. Don't be thinking about it early.
Asher Elias:
Kyro is an immature capital pilot. Yep. There you go.
Ceema asked, does Gobbins rat during his fireside? I was thinking about this the other day, how it's pretty funny that Gobbins has basically become everything he professed the hate, all the things he hated about Mittens, that he doesn't log in and play the game, that he was on the Spin Master, 9,000, all that stuff. He is now become it himself. So I'm pretty sure that Gobbins is not actually out there playing the game in any way either. Die a hero or live to see yourself become the villain.
Mature capital pilots in your area want you.
Is it worth training a Naglfar before a Bane? I wouldn't recommend training either of those unless you have other options, no other options.
Link. The new Ishtar you talked about the last week or two weeks ago. Could someone grab that, Home EC thread? Throw it in there.
Has mining ratting activity increased from the old space? That's a good question.
Snipereagle1:
We eagerly await the release of the MER on the ninth day of the month.
Asher Elias:
It's looking good.
Kazanir:
Yeah, things feel good. People seem less exhausted by the move than maybe we were worried, which is good. But at the same time, we did just get here, so, but yeah, we don't have a big reason to be upset or worried. Things do look better. The compacted area helps a lot.
Asher Elias:
Our space is not fully set up, like I was trying to rat in a system and it had literally no structures in it. So it's like a reminder that we're not even, fully set up yet. And we're doing extremely well by the metrics that we can see. So we'll see what the MER says, but our metrics, our internal metrics are looking very good. It's reminding us of sort of, I wouldn't say peak Delve, but it's certainly, high quality, good stuff. Yes.
Snipereagle1:
There's still a lot of boxes in the garage though.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, that is very true. Our GSOL dudes, everything like that. They're, they still have a task every day. They're doing a task right now and it's a pretty big one.
Kazanir:
Boxes in UALX, so.
Asher Elias:
Yep. Kulti, you need to go to the Alliance, chat, like Alliance Chat in the game. It's in the MOTD and then you can click it right there and join it.
A guy's asked me a question in Mumble. No, you need to go onto Jabber and join the channel Elysium and put the, question in there. Elysium is the general chat chat in Jabber.
Next UALX cyno chain when? I don't think we have one scheduled. We will be running them now and again. We did one last week. We'll probably do one in the next week or so.
So I'm from an older era in the game. Is there a possibility we could set up a fun roam per coalition via Pre-ping? I'm not really sure what you're asking Charlie Murphy particularly, but yeah, we're generally not pre-pinging fun rooms.
I'm not driving to Atlanta to watch a sumo event. I would, so I was in Japan. I did miss Sumo by like one day. But, next time I go to Japan, I'm definitely gonna see Sumo, maybe next year.
If we have a legacy Naglfar and lose it during strat ops, it's still possible to choose another dread hull as SRP? I think so. I don't remember the specific details, but I believe that is correct. If you lose a Nag, you can get another one.
Kazanir:
That's our principle SRP strategy really is to try and get all the tech ones we have destroyed and replace them with either a navy or reserve. That's been the majority of our last two SRP waves.
Asher Elias:
Upgrade program when? I don't think we have a upgrade program coming in the near future.
Kazanir:
I mean, there sort of is one. It, it might not be extremely well understood 'cause it's talking about the producers. Yeah. If you, if you buy a Navy or a Zirn off one of the producers, you can sell them back any of your tech one hulls, including a Naglfar for, not the full market price, but a couple billion, I think it's like two and a half billion odd that we're paying for those hulls. And the Alliance uses those to give SRP to droppers and to fuel people who are on the hunt for skulls up in the drone regions.
Asher Elias:
Asher, some time back there was some push to have a unified standing fleet, but so far it looks like we don't have one. Is there reason goons don't have one compared to other alliances? So, yeah, we did push for it and we set it up, but then it just, the uptake wasn't high, I think partly that's because a lot of people have corp fleets that they join. But getting an alliance one just didn't seem like it was a strong thing. It's something that we'd like to have, but it's one of those things where, you look at the juice first to squeeze and see how much effort needs to be put into it. And it's just a lot to organize for people who didn't seem too super excited about it. I was very excited about it, but it didn't, it didn't end up taking, I would be happy for it to take. And beehive is kind of close enough and that's sort of what people are answering.
https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/357534-sig-lemmings-self-coordinated-home-defense/
Kazanir:
This is part of that thought was when we had the split staging and now we don't, and beehive is up more frequently, so the valence of that question has changed too.
Asher Elias:
Asher, what did you have for breakfast? I did not have, I didn't for breakfast, but I reheated some Costco pizza from like four days ago when I went to Costco. Oatmeal's Good. I'm an oatmeal fan.
Yeah, talking about gate camps, it's nice to break those. We have had beehive talk about putting HAW dreads on particular gates just to make them harder to do. I don't know if that's still happening. I hope it is, but, I'm not sure about the answer for that one.
Do raids on SkyHooks just not happen as much anymore? I feel like that would be a good use for standing fleets. Not really. It's not a big thing, no.
I've never been to a Sheets. I know people really care about this answer. I have a Wawa near me. I like it. It's like, it's one of those places where it's like waffle house where the quality of the food is inversely related to the time. Like Wawa at 6:00 PM is pretty garbage to be honest, but Wawa at 3:00 AM it, it's heavenly, do you know what I mean? Like you can get like that pretty garbage meatball sub, but at 3:00 AM it is delicious.
Yeah. Mach one, I mean, I, I feel really bad for the non-Americans who have never got to experience a waffle house. It's the true American experience. There's a video with, who was that chef who passed away? I can't remember his name. Yeah, Anthony Bourdain. Where he went to a Waffle House for the first time. It's on YouTube, but it's totally worth watching. If you're like not American, go find the Antonio Bourdain first time at a Waffle House video and just sort of understand like the guy he's with who's like hosting him is like drunk, which is definitely part of the Waffle House experience. Totally worth it. There aren't any waffle houses on the East Coast that is totally wrong, absolutely wrong. They are called huddle houses in some place. By the way, like if you see Huddle House, that is a Waffle House.
Snipereagle1:
I think we gave a little bit of a shout out earlier, but I wanna, I want to hit it a little bit harder. Shout out to our incursion sig because not only did they farm three incursions back to back, we also pulled off a headshot in less than 24 hours. So huge shout out to those guys. And if you like running incursions, I'm sure somebody will slap that link in Elysium, go join our incursion sig. Go bully Sansha.
Asher Elias:
I'd like to just point out that during this fireside, I have killed 20 rats and made a million extra ISK. Thank you very much GoonSwarm Federation. Whoever's paying for this into my wallet, you are appreciated.
Snipereagle1:
You are.
Asher Elias:
Oh, okay.
Snipereagle1:
It's coming outta your salary.
Asher Elias:
Thank you me. All right.
Any advice on Iceland vacation for the next month? I have never been Iceland, so I can't give you advice.
Use carriers in incursions. Yeah, someone was talking to me about that today about how that's really useful for getting some practice on carriers.
I do not actually get paid. That is, that was sarcasm.
Snipereagle1:
Someone was asking about an in-game channel for small gang PVP. There's a channel called Lemmings that is linked in the MOTD of all of our Intel channels. You can use that.
Asher Elias:
Is CCP working on carrier changes? They did float a little bit of an idea. You know, when you've been around this game long enough, you learn not to really, take the idea of any kind of change too seriously until you actually see it done, you know what I mean? So I will believe it when I see it.
I will report that running Krab beacons in two dreads is great. Indeed, it is.
T2 Titans when? I don't know that T2 Titans would ever even make sense to be honest, we'll see.
Zirn Titan, I think we could see that.
Snipereagle1:
The faction titans that exist don't really do it for me. But if they added like a world ark esque titan, I, I would be very poor very quickly.
Asher Elias:
At one point I proposed to CCP that Titan doomsdays, they should be a spool where they fire at the end of the cool down at the start. So basically you would target and then after five minutes, the doomsday would hit, but would have more damage which I thought was more interesting gameplay, but yeah, a Zirn Titan could definitely follow that as well, where it takes five minutes to spool the doomsday up, but once it hits, it does like four doomsdays worth of damage. Something like that. That'd be cool. I also proposed an ORE Titan, yes, that would just basically doomsday an asteroid belt and get all the minerals but they didn't think that was a good idea and it probably was a terrible idea to be honest.
Alright, friends, I'm gonna say thank you all for showing up. I wanna say thanks to once again to the Goons who raised money for cancer research, and everyone else too. $11,400. Amazing. Good job on that. Have a wonderful week. I'll see you all next week. Try to beat me at Scalding Pass. You will not do so, but. I'll let you know if anyone got ahead of me. Have a wonderful week. Bye.
Snipereagle1:
I just dropped the link one more time for the coord recruitment posts. Some helpful directors helped me update it with a direct link to send a forum PM with your answers. So thank you Delta and Ranger for that.
https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/372827-gsf-coordinators-recruitment-drive-summer-2025
Asher Elias:
Thanks.