Fireside Chat Transcript 2025 09 20

Asher Elias:

Hello friends. What's up with everyone? What the fuck is up Denny's? What are Couch Lands and why did I think that was some kind of magic card as soon as I heard about it.

Kazanir:

I assume he means Lost Lands, a popular EDM festival, which is currently ongoing.

Asher Elias:

I see. Okay.

Kazanir:

Couch Lands. This refers to watching Lost Lands from home. I remember the lingo now.

Asher Elias:

It appears you were correct.

Kazanir:

Whamo.

Asher Elias:

Yeah, Leraine I saw that video. That's a good strategy, if you're a big fan of a team, you think you're gonna lose bets of money that they lose. That way you're, you know, you get paid for losing, and if you win, then you just paid to win. Just went 30 and 0 oh as Lux and Ahrem do you feel I did? Lux can pop off in Ahrem. Not as much as like Samira though. Samira, you just roll your face on the keyboard and win. I saw the video. This is Ami's video on Horde. How many of you guys saw that video? Like, you know, you brought it up. I didn't really wanna talk about it. I, you know me, I'm like the no hubris guy, right? Like, and, but it is pretty funny, dude. It's pretty funny. Nah, it's new. Just came out Glowing Bulb. It, we were talking about it earlier and we're just like, it's nice when someone on the outside sort of just confirms the stuff you've been saying. Like, none of this is surprising if you listen to a fireside ever, or you're in any of our meetings, right? Like the fact that like they blue ball and then kind of lie about who won what is not really a surprise to anyone here, but it's nice when someone who is outside of your group just sort of confirms it, goes in there, has no preconceptions and then confirms what you, we've already been telling people. Yeah. That's what I said, Alan, that it is like, I disagree as well with the constantly being out formed thing. I think that was a little bit of like frustration talking perhaps, or just the one that she ended up going on.

Anyway. I've got a couple interesting things to tell you guys. Did you know that in, in game, if you look at Goonfleet, the original alliance, sort of the original alliance? Yeah. The, let's just call it the original alliance. In three days will be the twentieth anniversary of the founding of GoonFleet. So one more year till we can drink. Pretty sick.

Didn't Canada up their age or did I make that up In my mind, their drinking age. Yeah. Okay. Canada's still 19. Okay. That feels like more arbitrary than 18 to me. 16. Wow, that feels weird. That just feels really weird from over here. Anyway. All right. Well, 20 year anniversary in a couple days. Thanks to Cryptic Fox for catching that.

We don't have any incursions up right now. We think one will probably, whoa. Okay. Thanks Heidi. We don't have any incursions up right now. We think one might spawn pretty soon. Just wanna see if I say incursions again. If something will just scroll our screen. Incursions. Incursions. Anyway. All right. I dunno even know what I'm announcing anymore. Just joining Incursion Squad. You can make some money. There you go. Boom. In particular, incursion Squad is looking for US time zone pilots.

https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/367627-sig-incursions-fleet-based-pve-and-isk-making-with-friends/

Speaking of which we'll be upgrading our hardware pretty soon, like in, in the next couple of days, most likely. So your spam, you're spamming of links will no longer be draining on our systems. Thank you once again to everyone who donates to the server fund. We do appreciate you. Yeah, Jabber and Mumble will have to go down for their upgrades. Link to server fund. I don't have it off hand. I'm actually, I'm sure someone could pop it in here. The Patreon.

https://goonfleet.com/index.php/forum-78/announcement-93-goonfleetcom-server-fund-patreon/

Ah this seems appropriately salty. Mayhem Von Raze says, can we get some leadership attention to the ACL policy? My attention is peaked. At the moment there is no distinction between actual goon fucking and a small mistake will get you 90 days on the shit list. Only one director is handing these out, so it will help to have more of a team handle this instead of one to two people who hardly log in. Mayhem Von Raze, you've really checked a lot of boxes here. I appreciate you, brother. If you or a friend happen to make a small mistake, you gotta wait 90 days. That's how it goes.

Kazanir:

If you really, if you really feel brave, you can try and appeal to me. I don't know if I've ever succeeded in getting one of those overturned, but frequently what happens is that the small mistake turns out to be what was small is the person's evaluation of whether they would get away with it.

Asher Elias:

Anyway.

Kazanir:

To should be clear. If there're, if you're actually goon fucking, you'd just be banned, right? The shit list is for things that are not full on goon fucking and you need a slap on the wrist. 90 days is a slap on the wrist.

Asher Elias:

That's a good point from Murimasa Shi. By the way, the eve guru videos are promoting station trading and nullsec alliance hubs. Don't do that in goon space. That's something I hadn't really considered, but yeah. You, maybe some Eve, you know, trader telling you that. And I say, trader, not trai-tor, some eve trader is telling you, you know, this is the greatest way to get rich. Yeah, go do it in Jita or Amarr, or whatever. But you know, that's an unregulated market and this is a regulated market, right? And so if you wanna cry of freedom, you can go be absolutely as free as you want to be in Jita, totally, totally free. Free to compete with everyone else. If you want to play on our market list, you know, buy and list below the price of someone else. Make money that way. That was Kazanir Mayhem.

Vee was in fleet. That's cool. I actually didn't know.

All right. Two weeks from now, we have Locust Fleet. Dawn has been trying to get me to promote this, I think for the last four weeks. This is the first time I believe I've mentioned it, but, we will have, I think, our first cracks in two weeks.

Okay. I'm gonna do some quick questions. That's all I had to talk about. It's been a relatively uneventful week overall. And then I'm gonna do a sumo stream. Personally, I gotta, it's the only time I can fit it in today. So you got questions. Throw 'em out there.

How are the hostile napocs behaving? Apparently not very well.

Oh. Yeah, it actually reminds me we're almost certainly going to adopt Maelstroms and probably in the next week or so. So if you have not, if you are not part of Tech Fleet. You probably don't have the skills at all. If you were a part of Tech Fleet, you may not have T2 arty since Tech Fleet did not use T2 arty. So T2 large artillery, or was it projectiles, is the actual skill? T2 large projectiles and then Minmatar battleships, that's, that's something that's gonna be coming down the pipe. The CCP just buffed the hell outta the maelstrom. I know I told you guys this last week, but yeah, so we'll be adopting maelstroms. Leshaks when? Probably not happening. With maelstroms coming into the meta doesn't make a ton of sense.

Pi class and Gooniversity when? I do not know the answer to that.

Ellie Mae says, Asher, can you tell people to join scouts? We like to watch. Indeed. They do like to watch.

Give Baltec. Baltec could come back. Could come back. It's a possibility. We'll see what happens with the meta. Basically, Baltecs will come back if sort of a sig tanking meta arises.

How do you feel the Alliance is doing with all the poke fights that have been going on? I feel like there's a real nice balance between turbo crabbing a few hours, followed by a shit ton of GQ and RXA content. Thank you Mifune. I think we're hitting a pretty good spot with it. I just learned old Gooby is trying to spin it to his guys as though he is doing a war. He is releasing his weekly war updates, so that's funny. But yeah, we're trying to keep you guys entertained. Have fun. Go for a little strategic goals along the way, but let you guys make money and enjoy it.

One a question for me. I was scrolling by, what was it? Oh, Raven Navies. Yeah. We will be using Raven Navies.

Wait. We're at war according to Gobbins? We are indeed at war. Weekend at Gobbins continues.

Ron Johnson requests that I ask Leraine if he has a fun sumo fact. Leraine, do you have a fun sumo fact?

Can I bring my Drake to a fleet? Hmm. Maybe.

Randy Downs says, any Armor docs coming soon? Yes. I will be adopting one. Many others are not nearly as excited as I am, but something will be happening. I will. Yes. I'm all aboard with the Armor doctrines right now.

Thoughts on Vanguard and the event? Darth Kilth. I have literally no idea what is going on with Vanguard or the event like I saw some chatter about it and I am totally out of it. Other than that, so. Yeah.

Fast as fuck Leshaks. Probably not Leshaks, like I said, with Maelstroms and the meta.

Did you know that UK Corp turned 21 a couple days ago? Who knew the old folks had enough bandwidth to let us all online at once? Graham Edwardson says that. No, I did not. That's cool though.

Yeah, I read some Vanguard stuff. It, oh, I did see a cool screenshot though, of like an Orthrus and a, was it, it was an Orthrus and a pancake, right? Yeah. A Barghest. An Orthrus like flying over a battlefield. That was cool.

Kazanir:

That's really good art. They really did good with that.

Asher Elias:

I like that one, but that, yeah, I literally don't know anything else about it. I always thought it'd be cool, like if like you could integrate it somehow where like you could board ships and like turn off guns and stuff by having like marine fights in them. I don't know if that actually has any use tying that into EVE, but it would be a cool thing, like imagine if you had a Titan fight and you would like drop ships dropping into the Titans to turn off like the fight over turning off doomsday. Is that cool or not? I mean, it is cool. Would it bother us? Probably, yeah. Keepstar infiltration missions when? Like, yeah, that's stuff you could do.

Mifune says, here's an interesting question. I'll be the judge of that Mifune. I don't, it's going to happen. I think you, I think you mean doubt. I don't. It's going to happen, but are we ever going to get a recode of goonfleet.com? I'm sure that backend infrastructure is kind of old. I'm curious if anyone from the IT team sees any issues or limitations with how it is today?

Kazanir:

Well, that's a great question.

Asher Elias:

Yeah, it is. It is actually a good question. Do you wanna handle this one Kaz? I mean, I have a, I can answer it. Would you like Yeah. Here. I'm gonna, can someone Google a picture of duct tape for me and just throw it in there? And that would be indicative of our code base.

Kazanir:

What? What do you mean? I think it looks like buttes. That's what it looks like.

Asher Elias:

Well, buttes it does indeed. I'm gonna try to answer your question quickly and pithily. We wouldn't mind having a ground up recode of everything. It would be a lot of work and it would need people to do it and so it is unlikely to happen. Getting that kind of stuff done is not sexy and people who volunteer for it generally don't finish and go all the way through with it, so. That's sort of the, the way it is and we certainly don't make enough money to hire someone to do it.

Kazanir:

Right. So we, we do feel like even though it's old and really horrible garbage that we're embarrassed to have to ask a single developer to help us maintain. And several have volunteered because they're masochistic. We feel like it's superior to alliance auth in certain key ways or, or doesn't have certain weaknesses. That doesn't mean it doesn't have all these problems. It does and we do wanna fix them, but yeah.

Asher Elias:

There's a lot of, we have a lot of systems that were built on top of it that just rely on it to run. So you would have to fix a lot of those systems that we built on top of our system to make it work. And it is just unlikely to happen. I would love to make like our registration process a little smoother. Like that would be nice. I don't like how much like tech support we have to do about that, but you know, someone once said you go to war with the Army you have not the one you want. There you go. Let's see.

Goon IT is Minmatar inspired. Exactly.

Apple Pear:

Tombstone I think Sopleb is an ai.

Asher Elias:

Yeah. Our, all of our code is single threaded, of course.

Are goons going, Elcryss asked this. Are goons gonna consider spread capital umbrella towards South or is that no option at all? That's a good question. So, this is a geography thing, Elcryss, and generally it's not an option because we are placed in a system that covers like, depending on the type of ship, somewhere from 80 to 150 systems. And there, there are only a couple systems better than that in the area, but they, it's all nominal gains and they're all pretty close to C-J. Going to the south would severely cut our systems that we can do, and the gain would not be that extensive. So our thought and our thinking and what we're happy with right now is that it's basically impossible to not find a valuable system that you can use under the umbrella. And so splitting ourselves would be a whole lot of work for very little gain, a lot more effort and more danger too by having same things split. So unlikely. There's a lot of good mining systems in the south. Yeah. I mean you can still mine them and Rorquals with panic should be able to survive long enough to have someone get out to you and save you would dump them with one. So there you go.

Next Keepstar fight when? Bodian like we don't have a one like plan at the moment. You know, we had that one a few weeks ago and we'll have another one soonish, they say something soon-ish. Future plans.

Eos fleet when? I don't think the Eos is very good, but I mean they specifically kind of unbuffed it, didn't they? It's certainly not on my radar.

Eagles. Eagles are not good. Eagles the band. This is pretty good if you like Dad Rock.

Just joined the stupid idiot sig. How often do they get called up? What is stupid idiot? That's redeemers?

Kazanir:

Yes, that is beehive. That is the people who drop with beehive.

Asher Elias:

Yeah. I mean, yeah, just, you just need to be in the beehive fleet and on comms, and it's all the time, but you probably won't get a ping saying, you know, this or that.

Kazanir:

You'll get pings to say when beehive opens, now that you're in the sig correctly. Right. That.

Asher Elias:

Tombstone is very happy.

All right. Do we have any burning questions? Does anything burn guys?

CAD alts. What about CAD alts? Like, yes. Get them. They're good.

Burns when I'm PVPing. I like that Ron. Good job

I made sourdough. Dude, please share with the class. I love sourdough. Sourdough is the best kind of bread. I'm just gonna throw that out there. If you think anything else you're wrong. Also, this is for Americans only, but mac and cheese should not be part of your Thanksgiving dinner. That's disgusting. Please stop.

Apple Pear:

Sourdough being the best bread is also only for Americans because they don't know how to make bread.

Asher Elias:

I'm leaving Goons after that statement. Yeah. Perfect dude.

Bro, Leraine, americans and food ain't doing well. That's like the craziest statement. Like there's a lot of bad things you could say about America, but the fact that our food is good is like the one thing that everyone agrees on.

Kazanir:

Our food is unhealthy. That's true.

Asher Elias:

That's why it's good.

Kazanir:

Yeah. Correct.

Asher Elias:

Like if you want to be healthy, don't eat our food. But if you want to have good quality, tasty food this is the place to be.

Kazanir:

Gluttonously tasting even.

Asher Elias:

Yeah. Like I've been, I've been in Britain. Dude, it's bad. It's real bad. It's really.

Kazanir:

That's really, you know, take the weakest antelope out of the pack of Europe though.

Asher Elias:

Yeah, yeah.

Ranger Gama:

We should set a higher bar than.

Asher Elias:

That is. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. France, Italy, Spain, those are your heavy hitters over there in Europe. Don't, Germany? No, no. I'm sorry Germans. You do not have like good food. Your food's fine. You got some good stuff, but it's not like, let's not, let's not get all ourselves over here. I know that was Dawn saying it, not even a German calling it out.

Europe is not only Britain. Okay. I've seen, I haven't seen proof of that.

All right. Do different color chats mean anything in jabber? Kondo. They're the first good question we've had in two minutes. No. You just get, you get assigned a name randomly. There's no, or like color randomly near your name. It's not, there's no meaning. It's not like a role or whatever, like you might be somewhere else. Just get a random color.

I've been asked about cat ears twice. I don't know why. Is this like a, did I talk about cat ears sometimes? I was shit posting if I, if I did.

Michelin stars by country.

So the French, the French magazine run by a French tire company might I add, a tire company, is the one that we're supposed to believe knows what is good food? Uh, I don't think so. I don't think so my friends. I don't trust French tire companies with my food recommendations. Be like me linking a US garbage dump company.

Yeah, Japan actually has, like Tokyo has so many Michelin star restaurants.

All right, friends, I'm not gonna ping out my stream. I'm gonna just go put it up here. I don't need to ping again since you're all here here anyway, I'm gonna go do some Sumo. See you later. Have a good one.