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Asher Elias:
Okay, so I could not unmute myself because so many of you were joining. I could not talk. It kept scrolling me away so I could not unmute myself to celebrate total victory.
Heidi ZXC:
Asher just needs to learn what CTRL-F is for Mumble.
Asher Elias:
All right, friends, gimme be a moment and then we'll begin.
Beyondnoxx_UNP:
As we cross 1100 people.
Apple Pear:
Well, while everybody waits on Asher, if you have not voted for the CSM, do it now.
Asher Elias:
All right, so. I guarantee you there are a few people who are coming in here who have not been here since Wednesday and have no idea what is going on. So for you guys who are, oh, I've been busy this week, I've been out of town or whatever, I will give you a brief update on what has been happening.
Obviously, first of all, we're gonna talk about PI. That's all. This is a big PI fireside.
So here we go. Okay, so let's go back. It was Wednesday, I believe it was Wednesday. It was either Tuesday or Wednesday. About 1900 on Wednesday. Thank you. Gobbins sends out a ping and says basically Horde is gonna move. They're going to sort of not break up, but, they said they're leaving PanFam, which is a really weird thing because they basically are PanFam. The whole thing was just so confusing. And I'm sitting in the director chat and all you see is just W-T-F W-T-F W-T-F W-T-F. And we were just, we were shocked. We could not believe it, but very quickly we realized no, like, like, no, this is not gonna happen.
So, I sent out a ping and I'm like, we're just not gonna let these cowards just leave. And you guys mobilized. I've heard so many stories from people about like I was at work and I thought someone died maybe 'cause I got like 30 text messages. All of you guys texted your buddies. You're like, get on. Get on. It's going down right now. And we just rolled over the border. We brought in dreads, we brought in supers. We had no infrastructure. Thankfully, thankfully Hippojaxx had anchored a POS inside their space in G-Q that we were able to bridge out of, which was nice. We dropped another POS. We started feeding people right into their stager, R-AG, and we immediately put up bubbles. We put up Hictor bubbles, we put up Dictor bubbles, and we started camping their undock. And by the time they got there, they had had about 40 minutes to get out.
Now it's important to realize that this was not planned. They had not told anyone. So many people had not left because you cannot pack up your entire life in 40 minutes. So, we get there, we start camping them in. Now we know in retrospect that they were shocked by this. We know this because they have admitted it. Gobbins pinged it out. Securitas said it, that they were shocked that we would come and hell camp them. And I think that says a lot about them.
I think it's very important, and this is like a life lesson to take for me, is that whenever you have an enemy or just anyone you're dealing with, you need to put yourself in their frame of mind, right? They could not fathom an idea where Goons would hell camp them. And that is a total and absolute failure of leadership. I know many of you Goons know that you would love to hell camp. Our numbers are insane. I was looking at it a couple hours ago, I believe there were 1400 people in R-AG and a hundred of them were in the Keepstar. That means 1300 Goons were camping in, a hundred logged in people. We love to hell camp.
So the fact that they were shocked by this shows it was an absolute failure on their part. This would not be the first or last time we learned about this one. They believed that we would wait to drop like a Keepstar or something on the other side of the gap. We would clear it out and then we would come across that they would have a day or two to just be moved out. The reason they believe that is because that would be how they would do it, right? And so this was of their many failures, thinking that we think like them was one of the biggest ones. And what could have gone, we lost 25% of our alliance, means that they have now lost 90% of their alliance because of that failure.
So in short order, we rolled into their space. We camped them. They tried to take the space back a couple times. One time they forced us off the undock and in command, it was like, I was like to the guys, we are taking this undock back. Alterarri formed Dreads, Zintage got texted while he was asleep. He woke. He was like, oh, what? Hello? He was like, all right, I'll form a Super Fleet. Zintage sounding so tired formed a Super Fleet after he rolled out of bed. He got called, all right, correction. He got woken up, formed a Super Fleet. Alterari formed dreads. We midded them into POSes like it is 2012, and they forced our subs off the undock with capitals, with carriers, and with an, with their only defense attempt it turned out. And we said, we are not letting them take this undock back. And we know because they have told us. That and that they pinged it out and that they told their guys, there's no way Goons will drop capitals on our Keepstar. And what did we do? We dropped capitals on their Keepstar and they had the undock for three or four minutes, and then we took it back and we have never given it back to them, and we are not gonna give it back to them until this Keepstar dies and every one of these people is sent into asset safety, and it is not the fault of the line member. It is the fault of the leadership that they let their guys be treated in this way, that they let their people be destroyed. 15% of your assets for no reason.
Imagine if I came to you and said, oh, you own three Titans. Pay me 15% of that 600 billion in value for no reason. What would you tell me? Think in your mind, what would you say to me if I told you, pay 15% of the Titan value for no purpose. By the way, I don't keep it. I'm gonna send it to CCP for no reason. Think about that. It's insanity. It is a failure in the worst sort of way to let your people go through this.
And so we find out that they're tired. They're tired of playing EVE. They want to be an elite PVP group. Guys, we're running the biggest or the second biggest coalition in the game, and I am tired of running the second biggest coalition in the game. Then leave. Don't destroy your people. It is disgusting the way that they've treated their people. Whaaaa, I run the second biggest coalition in the most exciting space game of all time. The one that their history books written about. Whaaaa we're gonna have a giant fight against our ancient enemy. I'm tired. Find someone who isn't tired. I am not tired of destroying these people. I am looking forward to crushing this Keepstar tomorrow. I find it offensive.
You guys know that compared to other people, I don't come up here and throw random insults at people. I try to give people a fair shake. I try to say, this is what could have happened. And I'm sure that in their life they had stuff. We have all had stuff in our real life where we can't play EVE, where something doesn't work out. And you know what we do? We say, Hey buddy, can you run this POS for me. Can you empty my moon drill? Can you do whatever, empty my moon drill? It's a, I'm gonna use that at the bar. Can you do whatever you want to help me out? Please. I need some help. I need some help, will you step up for me? And then people say, yes, I will step up for you. You're my buddy. I'll help you. Where are your friends? Where are the people you have cultivated in your life that want to help you? Like, hey, we're about to have the biggest war of all time. Please step up and help. Okay? I don't wanna run the biggest war of all time. Will you do it? You have promise, right? You're a guy. You're a kid who's been coming up in the system. You wanna crush the Goonies, you think they're terrible? Why don't you go do it? No. Why don't we quit? Why don't we run away? Why don't we let our people be crushed? Because we can't imagine Goons hell camping us.
It is offensive to me how bad these people are. It's offensive. And so we will not leave this Keepstar until it is destroyed. We will send a message. It's that simple. And that's where we are now. This Keepstar blows up tomorrow in US time zone. I'm going to click on it right now. One day, five hours, 22 minutes and 22 seconds from right now. Every one of you should be there if you can be to destroy it. You are a part of this moment.
When I took over, I told you I would help you tell the story. I thought the story was going to be, we went in there, we attacked them, we fought them, and maybe we lose and maybe we win. One of those two stories. Either one would've been something you remembered. We aren't gonna get that story. That story is gone. We are making a new story for us. The new story is gonna be, in five years, you're gonna talk about, guys, I was there. Hey, new guys. Listen up to this story. I was there five years ago. At the time, there was this group called Pandemic Horde. You've never heard about them, you've never heard about Pandemic Horde, but at the time, they had been the biggest group in the game from 2020 until 2025. They were the biggest group, the most powerful group in EVE Online. Can you imagine that? And then their idiot, moron leaders threw them out like garbage. We destroyed them. You know what we did? We went and we hell camped them. We sat on, you would not believe, there were 410 Interdictors. Sorry, heavy interdictors on the D-Scan, there were 200 dictors on the D-Scan, I have a picture. It looks like the station is covered in fog. There were so many bubbles. They were saying that we violated the EULA by bringing too many types of one ship. I have the screenshot. It's hilarious. I've saved it for five years. Look at the fog around the station, guys , it was starting to be winter. My room was not cold because my GPU was so hot from all the bubbles. That's what it was like, guys, that's the story I gotta tell you.
So this is our story now, our story is that we destroyed these people and we sent a message that you should take care of your people. It doesn't matter if you win or lose. People care about the story. People care about fighting. And so when we spend years building up for this fight, if you don't give it to us, we're gonna take something from you and we're gonna take this story. And the story we are gonna take is that tomorrow, in one day, five hours, 19 minutes and 56 seconds, this Keepstar is gonna blow up. And if you remember, if you played Age of Empires II, you built a wonder and you kept it for a thousand years of game time and you had a cultural victory, the drone lands are being flipped. They're gonna be opened up to anyone. Renting is done in the drone lands. That scourge of EVE Online gone from the drone lands and just yesterday Fraternity announced they're ending the renting program.
Renting is done in Nullsec. We wololo'd the renting in Nullsec . Our priests went around the land. We wololo'd renting from Nullsec. We gathered every shrine. We built a wonder, we had a cultural victory. Wololo. I was there five years ago, wololo. It was crazy.
It wasn't what we expected, but it was our story. And this is your story in EVE now. I said thank you guys for being part of the story. I appreciate you. We could have rolled across that border and you know, 120 of you could have shown up 'cause it was, it was a weekday. You were doing something else. But you texted your buddies, you got a text from your buddies. You're like, sorry, honey, my spaceship friends need me. I'm going to the computer. Could you make me a sandwich? I'd appreciate that. I'll do the dishes next week. I'll make it up to you. You became part of the story. We appreciate that. Your friends appreciate that. That's what EVE Online is about. It's about the people you know. It's about the friendships you make. It's about the stories you tell. I don't care about your Titans. I really don't. I care about your Titans being part of a story. If they can't be part of the story, we're gonna find something else. And this is our story. So thank you for being here. I'm gonna tell you a little bit more about some stuff that's going on, but that's the story we made.
All right, friends, so here's a question. Are we moving? We're not moving. We have dropped two new industrial zones near C-J. We've dropped a ton of reaction Tataras. We rigged them. We're not moving. I know you guys have heard me saying it. We're not moving.
We've done a new drone lands thing. If you have missed the Reddit post, that's fine. I'll read to you what's gonna happen in the drone lands. I made this Reddit post yesterday. The current drone infrastructure will be glassed. Drones will opened up to any alliance that believes they can take the space. Renting in the space will not be allowed. We're gonna drop a handful of Keepstars in Drones. The problem is, if you're deep in the Drones, you cannot run logistics unless you hold the inner and outer edges, right? So we will keep those free ports alive and we will let anyone who wants to live in the Drones use them for logistics so that they can count on the space being available to them. So they don't have to be a giant group to live in the Drones. Groups that go into the Drones must be unaligned with the existing blocks. So you can't send in a FRT group, you can't send it in an Initiative group. These groups have to be unaligned, and we're not gonna let them use this as an invasion force. They can't move next door to us and be like, well, we're just hanging out in the Drones while they set up an attack on us. That's the point of it. We're not gonna be doing any kind of like rules lawyering. We've seen that before with the southeast agreement and all this kind of, he said, she said, following the rules, not following the rules. The rules are if you're strong, if you can take it, then you can keep it. Those are the rules. Just don't be aligned with other people. But if you are strong, take the space. When Alexander the Great died, they asked, who shall inherit your kingdom? And he said, to the strongest. That's what we say about the drone lands, to the strongest. Go and take it.
We will be spending the next week after this thing falls, glassing the drones. It'll be, we're gonna try to do it as fast as possible. We wanna reset that space. We're not gonna take the SOV. They can fight over the SOV. Whoever wants to go there can take the SOV. We're gonna blow up all the structures. Warm up your Leshaks, your supers, your titans, your Zirnitras. We're going to kill a lot of stuff. A tall sting dot jpeg would be very good.
Today we will be doing the Meta Show with Brisc Rubal at 2200. I'll be on there. Ranger will be on there. We got Riot Rick from Slyce. That's gonna be pretty fun. I'm told Brisc has a really good show lined up and Dave will be hosting.
I got a couple shout outs I wanna make , and here's the thing is we have so many people who've done a lot of work, so I know I'm gonna not be able to shout out everyone, so apologies if I miss you. I wanna shout out every pilot who showed up and has camped in one way or another. I've done, I believe, done 16, 17, and 16 hours running this camp. So I've seen a lot of you and a lot of you guys have shown up. It's been fun hanging out with you. You're much appreciated. Thanks to our, like our GSOL people got a POS set up in like four seconds the first day. It's gonna be be, it was great. We've been dropping structures. Broseidon who has joined us dropped the Keepstar in their space. If you see the Keep off the, their Keep, unfortunately we did not know the mechanic that you could revoke the corp as an ally and then, and then it wouldn't be anchored in a day. But you live and learn and actually didn't end up mattering. I've actually had so much fun living in a POS It has reminded me of back in the day, if you guys never got a chance to live out of a POS. It's fun to get this like one week experience. We do have an Astra that'll anchor late US time zone tonight, but living in the POS has been a lot of fun to me. There've been people just dropping their ships inside the POS, checking and getting a new one. It's sort of like, have you ever been to a store and they have the take a penny leave a penny little tray. If you need a little spare change, take dictor, leave a dictor inside the POS. POS luck is a great phrase Locusti. I like that a lot. Yep.
By the way, shout out to our guys. Dude, we got people leaving command ships, boosters, dictors just sit floating the POS. They could be stolen. People don't care. They've just been leaving what you need. There's been several people who have been bringing out missiles and bubbles and just restocking, just setting them inside the POS. It's been a great experience. I've had so much fun doing this with you guys.
There's a lot of questions. What's gonna be happening in the future, and I'll tell you the exact answer. I don't know. This has happened so fast. This has happened so fast. I don't know what's happened in the future because we did not know this was happening until Wednesday when Gobbins announced it. You know it, it's not a failure of Intel because I think like three people knew. Those three people got their supers out. We saw Horde leadership living in the Forge with all their titans. We have the screenshots. They got out. They left all their people behind. I don't know what'll happen in the future. We'll be talking about that a lot. We'll be burning the midnight oil. We'll be setting our brains to it. There's this ancient Chinese proverb, may you live in interesting times, and it's supposed to be a curse. The curse is to live in interesting times because the boring times are the prosperous ones. EVE is not real life. We are not looking to prosper in the sense that we're growing a family here. We're looking to have fun. So I want to live in the interesting times. And the interesting times are here. We'll try to lead you through them in the best way that we can. That'll be happening in the coming weeks.
In this next week, we will be destroying as much as we can. Tomorrow, we will be destroying the Keepstar in one day, five hours, 11 minutes, and 37 seconds.
Please go and vote for the CSM. These guys have lied to their members. They knew it was happening. They forced them to resub and they ran a campaign for people who would not be here. Vote for the CSM. Do not let their representatives get on the CSM. I know some of you don't like doing this voting. I don't like doing the voting. It's not fun. Vote with all of your accounts. Deny them the chance to get as many people as they want on here. They're trying to get two people onto the CSM. I will be disappointed if that happens. If their perfidity, their lying, gets the people on the CSM because they knew what was gonna happen. Their leadership knew what was gonna happen. And having these losers on the CSM for the next year to cause problems representing a group of people who no longer exist, getting under there under false pretenses will be a bad outcome. So get out there, get your vote in.
Thank you guys for being a part of this group. I hope you remember this history. I know I will. I'm writing it down. I appreciated making it with you. I'll see you guys over the next week. I'll see you at the Hell camp. I'll be running fleets tonight, tomorrow, and going forward. Have a great week. I'll see you next time.