Fireside Chat Transcript 2025 11 29
Asher Elias:
All right, what's up guys? Keep getting in. A lot of people here today. What up hate Carakka. Who is Carakka and why do you hate them? I'm watching my team play, so if there are awkward pauses, that's why. A plays going on.
Snipereagle1:
Just real quick before we get started, if you still have ships in R-A, there's a fleet on and we have Titan Bridges available throughout the fireside.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, get there because we're doing a gate crossing after the fireside, so get to R-A right now so you can cross if you were still there.
Alright, so I'm seeing a lot of you guys saying stuff that we're already putting in to talk about. First off, we have, thank you Zintage. We're gonna have fits for carriers out right now for you guys. We're calling them Tiger Claw. You have to say it according to Zintage with Cobra Kai Intensity. This is a Wing Commander reference, so if you're an old head, you will enjoy the reference. If you are a zoomer, you will not get it. You can call them white claws instead of Tiger Claw if you don't get it, but the old heads in the chat are enjoying it right now. If you've been under a rock here, one second. Alright, there we go.
Fightclub: fighter loadouts for supers updated https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/348727-fight-club-fittings-fighters-and-discussion/?p=9372748
Carriers: introducing tigers claw ( must be said with cobra kai intensity) https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/376533-active-strat-tigers-claw-carriers/
Faxes: new fuel loadouts thanks to catalyst fuel bay expansion https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/348922-capitals-force-auxiliary-fits/
Rev navy enjoyers: swap your x-type em hardener out for a faction heat sink https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/348925-capitals-dreadnoughts/?p=9374545
If you've been under a rock here. We are going to be using this carrier doctrine like battleships, so that means we're going to be having you guys fly in them like it's your main fleet ship. We want you training your main fleet person, like your main character into carriers. There are three races of carriers that are available. You got Minmatar, you got Amarr, you got Gallante. No other carriers exist so train into those. There will be Subcapital Logi. You can go ahead and look at there. There will be sub boosters, there'll be subcapitals flying on this fleet. So if you cannot fly a carrier yet, I was talking to someone a couple days ago, they're worried they're gonna miss out on the fun. If you can't fly a carrier yet, do not worry. Logi is always the perfect product.
Speaking of the perfect product, shout out to Powerful. He is a Ministry of Truth member and he had a awesome YouTube video, propaganda video, if you've not watched Hell Camp Fever. It's well worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH3ulQhJ0dc
There's some other updates for doctrines. We have Fight Club, the new load outs for fighters. We're updating the ancient loadout that we had before, new Faxes, the new Fax fitting slightly. It's basically just fuel. And then for Rev Navys, we're going a little less tanky with a little more damage. So you can go to a faction heat sink now. It is all in the various threads that will be linked. You guys can paste them again, but those are just the capital updates that we're doing right now as we prepare for main fleet carriers.
We do not plan to be doing carriers until after the new year. Let's hit on that for a moment. We don't plan to be doing anything really until after the new year as far as major operations. Month of December. Enjoy your holidays. Have fun, get fat. Speaking of getting fat, we had over a thousand mining barges yesterday and we, wow, okay. And we had a thousand mining barges. There were a lot of ISKies made for toonies, and I believe we got 52 moons mined out by Locus2t fleet. If you did participate in that, make sure you send in your taxes. We do not like to hunt people down. We'll do so if we have to, but most of you've been pretty good about that. Just remember to do it if you need to.
And yes, we had some discussion about the Zarm. We're adding Zarms because like we just realized that Logi doesn't get a chance to fly pimped out much. We're not fully reimbursing them. We don't actually think they're that good for this mission, but we're gonna give you guys 550 million which is gonna cover most of the hull. So if you want to, if you want to be a cool kid and fly a Zarm you can, and we'll give you most of the SRP for it. But it's mostly just that you will have the option to express yourself stylishly in a Zarm instead of flying a Guardian if you so desire.
Snipereagle1:
We're still working on sorting out the NSA to ISA swap. We need to get a pile of ISAs first, so in progress, there'll be a post and a fireside announcement when we've got that ready to go.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, we will be doing a swap, but remember, we are not gonna be rolling out this doctrine at least until January, so you got plenty of times to get ready for it and we'll be doing the swap.
Darth Killer says Yay. Being able to sub express within the limits of what the state allows. Truly a modern looking view from Darth there.
We're also going to be doing Subcap move ops and cyno chains. These are not crossings, but they'll be happening at 0000, 1000 , I'll say there and 1400. Those will be moving to get you ready to cross.
All right, so that is everything that I have here on this and as is tradition, as soon as I started talking here, my team started doing poorly, so I'm going to throw it to other directors so that they can talk. This happened last week too. It is truly my fault. I am karmically cursing my team by not giving 'em my all. I hope you guys have a great week. Thanks for showing up. Other directors will pop in here. You can ask them questions and I'll see you all next week. Actually, I won't. I won't be here next week. So see you all the week after that.
Ranger Gama:
All right guys, so as per usual, put your questions in. I did see one from, will there will universally be doing a crash course and how not to be stupid with a capital. No, we're Goons by definition. We do stupid things with caps. That is the way.
What else have we got. Any order of preference on the various carriers? For right now get you a carrier. You know, Amarr, Gallente, Minmatar. Those are the three that exist. Whichever one you wanna do, you do. And then at some point Zintage will yell at me that we have too many of whatever kind and you know, this is the way.
Zintage Enaka:
Realistically Thanatos, Nidhoggur, then a small gap, Archon.
Ranger Gama:
So Thanny first, and then we'll trust in the rust. So we'll do Thannies first. Trust in the rust. There's your order.
Lloyd, have we already moved CAD? No, that is still pending. So TBD on that one. So right now they're in TCAG.
Snipereagle1:
Or UALX. We did start moving them. And then Horde imploded. And so we put a pause on that. We're deciding what we wanna do with them. Like Feroxes has got nerfed pretty significantly. So.
Ranger Gama:
Yeah, I guess the answer for right now is wherever your CAD alt is, just leave it. We'll tell you guys what's gonna happen on that. Thank you Sniper. I totally forgot we did like two of those move ops. And then something happened on the 5th of November, right? I'm not sure what, but you know something.
Malcolm. Why is Florida so bad and how does Asher make watching them better? You know, Malcolm, if I actually understood hand egg ball, I might be able to answer that question, but I don't.
Zintage Enaka:
Dakkas have been dead for a while. We removed that doctrine when we added vultures.
Ranger Gama:
Tony, can we pour one out for plex prices? You know, plex prices being lower is fine.
Kazanir:
No one. No one or almost no one is complaining. There may be a few of you who said Plex will always go up who are currently cursing God and wishing to die, but most of us are happy.
Zintage Enaka:
People keep asking about the boosting carrier fits. I completely forgot about them. I'll try and get them done in the next couple days. They, the boosting carriers would go with dreads. They don't go with the actual carrier fleet.
Ranger Gama:
So football is the opposite of horse ball, not handball. I don't even know what those words mean.
Zintage Enaka:
Beer we're not adding a four booster Rorq fit. It's not. Like you lose too much tank to fit that fourth boost.
Snipereagle1:
Just make friends and bring boosts on two.
Ranger Gama:
Oh horse ball is polo. Okay, that that makes a lot more sense.
Apple Pear:
We are not planning to bring Boost Archons with this battleship fleet that also has some carriers.
Ranger Gama:
Sir Cuddles. Anyone have a BPO for friends? Well, I have BPOs, but I'm not your friend. So no BPO for you.
Kazanir:
Locusti asked for an Asher explanation of how all games played with the ball are football, but I'm happy to sub in here. I also am a zealot on this. All of these games are football. Soccer, as Americans call it, is widely called football in the rest of the world. It's full name is in fact a association football from Wence, the term soccer is abbreviated. The others, american football is more correctly called grid iron football, referring to the shape of the field as a grid iron. And rugby is either rugby union football or rugby league football. There are two types of rugby for those of you keeping score at home, all of these are football. Thank you.
Snipereagle1:
So EVE questions guys?
Ranger Gama:
There was one that just kinda, are we using amulets with carriers?
Zintage Enaka:
Yes. They're in the fits. If you look in fit in the thread, they have amulets. Yeah, they have SRP, like the carriers have SRP. But all capital SRP, we don't bother putting a value in affordable care because cap prices fluctuate too much. You will be made whole.
Ranger Gama:
Yeah, I think we set it one ISK just so it would've a value in the app or something like that.
Zintage Enaka:
Yeah, like it's set to one ISK, so you can put it in the app and then like you'll be made whole, we're sitting on stacks of carriers ready to replace people with an actual hull. So.
Apple Pear:
Beyond. Should we try and do an interest check on whether anyone actually is interested in this boondoggle?
Beyondnoxx UNP:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We should.
Kazanir:
Okay. So last week I had the idea of doing a booshing race between keep stars, and this evolved into a game idea, which we've called Hictor Ball. I put this on the forums. I anchored a field, but a field only lasts two days because for the corners of it, we're using mobile micro jump unit.
And those only last two days in space, but it is on the MSG gate in GPLB, in where Karma Fleet lives. So you're welcome to go check it out. There's two astras a thousand kilometers from each other, so put X up or do something, clap whatever in chat if you think you would be actually interested in playing a game of this and assembling nine of your closest friends to play Hictor Ball.
Ranger Gama:
Someone, I like you. Yeah. Oh, then you had to ruin it by saying you would actually do it. Okay.
Kazanir:
What if we turned this into some sort of competition for glory between corporations, SIGs.
Ranger Gama:
So I think you guys can see how bored the directorate has become when Horde collapses that.
Kazanir:
Practically instantly, practically instantly.
Ranger Gama:
The thing we're doing now.
Beyondnoxx UNP:
Someone promised us a war.
Ranger Gama:
Yeah. You know, that's, that's fair. I think we'll visually call the fireside done. But if you wanna continue to hear about Hictor Ball, I'm sure Kaz will wax poetically about that. You guys keep...
Zintage Enaka:
People are still asking important questions.
Ranger Gama:
Do we still have something that I missed?
Zintage Enaka:
Yes. So the capswarm carrier doctrine no longer exists guys. Like it's tiger claw. Like that. That's it. There's no separate capswarm carriers. Yes, it'll be put into the skill planner.
Ranger Gama:
We will annoy Stickz to get that in there.
Zintage Enaka:
Yeah. Ship your whatever fighters you don't want anymore to Jita, I'm sure they'll sell, especially since you're talking about Cyclops.
There will be a trade-in program for NSA later that are just not ready for it. Yeah.
Ranger Gama:
Typically trade-ins like that are usually done by a forum post, so keep an eye on that.
Zintage Enaka:
Yes, mid grades will be required and reimbursed for the carriers.
Apple Pear:
And to be clear, this is the full set, including Omega?
Zintage Enaka:
No, it's the one to five.
Apple Pear:
Okay. The one to five. Okay.
Zintage Enaka:
Fighter types are compulsory. Yes. You cannot customize to whatever you want. If you guys look really closely at the fighters, like if you put them into Pyfa, you'll notice all your light fighters go the exact same speed. There's a reason for that. If your fighters go faster than someone else's fighters, it just means your fighters end up dying first. And I'm sorry to all the super pilots that have to get rid of their Cyclops, but I do not know why someone thought it was a good idea to give the shield supers that don't get the fit drone navs, the slowest fighters possible. But that happened and we're fixing that problem. Cyclops actually do the least damage because everyone tanks against thermal damage, so just because they do the most base damage doesn't mean they're actually any good.
Snipereagle1:
Just real quick between questions, we are still running bridges out of R-A. We'll be doing that through 2030 and we'll be doing the gate crossing at 2030. There's a fleet up on what he say that people can get in to gauge numbers and just be patient. I'll ping again when we're actually gonna start going.
Zintage Enaka:
And since someone apparently didn't realize. You all can see our super titan fits and cap fits in the normal fleet doctrines and the reimbursement thread, they are not hidden anymore. Make sure you have the right fit.
Kazanir:
The reason we have secret channels for caps and super caps guys is for operational security, right? Like you're the fit of a thing is, it's kind of hard to hide long term. It's not really about that. It's so we can communicate securely with you in live situations, you know.
Snipereagle1:
Which is also why we heckle people when they ask about cap pings in Elysium.
Kazanir:
Exactly. That's the don't talk about it part.
Ranger Gama:
Okay. Any other questions from anybody?
Zintage Enaka:
Francisco. Pyfa does not play well with like fleet hangers. So with caps, just assume that you're fitting up Cap Booster 3200s. The carriers don't have a lot of cargo space in general, so you can't really like fit the 3200s, go into the fleet hanger and you just fill your fleet hanger
Ranger Gama:
So is there an op plan right now? Not really. You can look on the forums to see when posted ops would be, but since Horde collapsed, yeah, there's no, there's no real op plan where traditionally take December off so everybody can enjoy time with family, that kind of stuff. Get some ISK into your wallets. Do whatever that is for you, whether it's ratting, mining, however it goes.
Zintage Enaka:
Sapphire, were you here when we did yacht fleet? Because I think that's the best way to explain these carriers, so I'll do my best to explain this. There is a limited number of FCs currently that will be able to ping the Tiger Claw fleet, so we plan to use them with main fleet. We do plan to use them as often as we can, but they will not be like every fleet we ping is a carrier fleet.
Snipereagle1:
Delta Flux is gonna cry if we sling carriers through Ansiblexes three times a day.
Zintage Enaka:
Yeah. GSOL will be very upset with me if I chew all their ozone. Yeah.
What Kaz said is pretty good. Not as common as Rokhs.
More common than when we used the Leshak.
Snipereagle1:
One note, by the way, we've mentioned mining a bunch of times. Make sure you're training the new mining skills, which are mining precision and mining. I don't remember what the other one is. Somebody will put it in Elysium. It's basically just free extra ore. Like I had a corp moon this week and we mined 113% of the expected R4 output. So. Exploitation. Yeah, that's right. Which is actually a cool name. Yeah, so that's basically just free ore while you're mining. So. If you are a person who enjoys mining, make sure you train those skills.
Kazanir:
Yeah, that actually, this reminded me. We have an announcement. As you guys know, we ban selling capitals, carriers FAXes and dreadnoughts to neutrals or hostiles in regions that border us. Okay? This is a longstanding policy and that moves with us as we have moved, that ban continues. So right now, if you're a capital producer, you're not allowed to sell them in Curse or Great Wildlands or neighboring low sec like Derilik. I don't know exactly off the top. We're going to lift this restriction for one system only in Drone Lands, which is 9WV. It is the Eastern most free port, so that's the free port that is up in Paragon Falls. It does not have direct range on G-Q, but if you want, if you're a capital producer and you wanna go and haul your capitals up there to sell to neutrals in the drone land, you may now do so. 9WV. We'll get a thread update for that coming soon.
Ranger Gama:
Any other questions or anything from the directors before we call it there. Horde will finally take 1DQ yep. Maybe. Let's see. Okay. I think we'll call it a day there. We'll see you guys next week. Have a good day. There is going to be a gate crossing in six minutes, so keep an eye out for pings. Sniper will send that. Tech I'm not ignoring you there. I don't have a good answer for that. So TBD on that one man. Alright guys, enjoy your week. We'll talk to you next week. Have a good one.
