Fireside Chat Transcript 2024 03 02
Asher Elias:
We had like 150 people waiting before I pinged. It's crazy. It's like the punctual people who get to things on time. We do just like, just like we do bingo for the fireside, there's the Illum meeting bingo. And one of the boxes is almost always, Asher shows up more than five minutes late.
Ranger Gama:
Just so you guys know, it replaced the need to go get coffee at beginning of meeting, which is what always used to happen.
Asher Elias:
I've got a buddy who is one of those people who is like perpetually, not just late, just like an hour behind to the point where we lie to him about when, you know, an event is planned. Like if it's at 8pm, and we say it's at 7, so he gets there about on time. He's not French, no. Is he an FC? Nice. I think I think FCs tend, not always, but they tend towards being, you know, multitaskers and jacks of all trade. And I think that kind of person tends to be more late. I think people who are more focused or tend to be more punctual, but FCing is not generally one of those things that you know, super focused people do. Also ADHD, indeed. After we build the Palantine Keepstar, do we shoot it by ourselves because we shoot everything first after we build it first? I mean, that's not a bad idea. That would be the ultimate meme, to shoot it and then, er, sorry, to build it and then immediately blow it up.
Ranger Gama:
Asher, I believe that's called future plans.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, true, true. But it would be the ultimate meme. Aoife asked me, would I rather do the Fortnite default dance or twerk? I don't know what the Fortnite default dance is, so I can't answer that one accurately. But probably that, probably that, yeah. Alright, there's the bingo card.
Alright, I will answer questions after I talk about a couple things. Not the biggest agenda today. I will tell you guys a few cool stuff. First, immediately after the fireside, there is a Gooniversity vs. Brave Dojo blue shoot. So I'm actually thinking it's an hour after the fireside ends, so, about 55 minutes from now. So if you want to shoot brave in a frigates, I believe you can go there. Go ahead and drop the link in there, please. If you can starting at 2100, it starts at 2100 to me that's right before it. I don't think so. I think you're using T1 frigates. There you go. Getting pasted. Begun the education wars have.
Snipereagle01:
Yeah, it's gonna be I think we're doing rifters and they're doing atrons.
Asher Elias:
Oh, that's such a classic I love that.
Snipereagle01:
Yeah, it's a it's a very classic.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, someone is sending me a question over mumble? Please join Elysium on Jabber. That is where we ask questions. Elysium on Jabber
All right, so we had a, we had a director fireside last week. And I'm back this week. There's, we had a lot of irons in the fire. I'm going to update you guys on, on where we see ourselves as far as. What our strategic plans are, what our short term plans are so long term, our plans are let's say nebulous. We know that CCP has their eye on nullsec. We don't know what they're doing. So It's exciting to me. It's exciting because I think that we have the best team for adjusting to whatever they do. I think we put ourselves in the best position. I don't believe that CCP will release a system that encourages or rewards holding a ton of space and being very spread out. And I don't think that they will, I don't think that they'll encourage renting, which is a benefit to us and that we don't do it.
There are, it's a video game, right? So I don't want to be, I don't want to be too like this is, this is the evil ones because I don't really feel that way, but my feeling about renting is the same and that's why would you come and play a video game and decide to be a virtual landlord? I. I don't get it. I would never want to do that. PAPI control 75 percent of the space and they rent it out for profit. And we don't do that because we're here to play this game to enjoy it, to have fun. So, in the way that they are a bad guy, it's the most banal and boring form of being a bad guy. Don't think CCP will reward them. I believe that we are in a much better position for whatever changes happen in the medium term. If you want to be a virtual slumlord, this is probably not the place for you.
So, for the short term, what our plans are is, we have a pretty we have a pretty exciting thing that we're going to be starting to do, let's say in the next couple of weeks, so I'm not ready to announce it yet, but this is why I've been saying, you know, make your money, get, get ready for the future. We are in the, let's not say the final push, but we are in the time where we need to prep and start saving. I've personally witnessed a lot of people who are just crabbing their brains out and building up huge war chests. And I hope that's the case for most people. From what I can see, a lot of our guys are doing that.
That's good. I want to take us out and end that sort of Ultra crab mindset for a bit in the near future. I'm being deliberately a little vague here. So what I'm telling you guys is if you aren't making money right now, get yourself out there, get your pickaxe, go and mine some stuff. Go mine some crabs. Just be prepared.
All right, Mr. Guy. Man, I don't even know how to say your name. Can you please stop sending me messages on mumble? It's about beehive in period basis. There probably will not be a beehive in period basis.
Yeah, let's talk about the bistot rule. Kaz, you're actually, are you in here Kaz? I wanted to talk about the price fluctuating observed from that. You're keen up, but I don't hear you.
Ranger Gama:
Yeah, me either, Kaz.
Kazanir:
Hello.
Asher Elias:
There you go.
Kazanir:
Yeah, we are two days into the Bistot rule. For those who are not caught up, what has happened is, we were observing essentially far too much cherry picking of more valuable minerals that was causing belts and ore anomalies, not belts, to not re pop. When that, what happens is, you cherry pick the most valuable ore, leave the least valuable ore, which in our case is generally Bistot behind, and the belt will not re pop, it will not despawn for 2 3 days before it comes back in a new form. If, by contrast, an anomaly is mined out, it respawns typically in 3-4 hours. It can vary a little bit.
So, the Bistot rule says, bistot needs to be mined first in any anomaly where it's present. It needs to be cleared out. So we're doing this as a test case. We used to have a rule like this for even less valuable ore called dark ochre years ago that was key to Delve's success during the Rorqual era. If you were here, you already know all this. If you weren't here, this, this is part of the story of us having a lot of Rorqual and beefing out on mining in the years, 2017 to 2019. So we're trying that again. We're going to evaluate how this looks on the MER after a month. We may try it for another month. We may adjust midstream. We're not sure, but that is the basics.
So we got a question in Ask a Director from someone who said, Hey, well, you know, I prefer merc mining solo. It's hard to clear a belt on your own. And I understand that's true. And I don't have anything against a solo miner who is looking to mine the best possible ore. But what our hypothesis is, is that there were just too many of those dudes, unfortunately. And so, organizationally, it's right for us to go to Bistot first and see how that goes. Now I will look at Elysium and answer questions.
Asher Elias:
Kaz, who's who's like Kermit's girlfriend on the Muppets? Kaz?
Kazanir:
Mrs. Piggy?
Asher Elias:
Someone asked me to say it, I'm just making some dreams come true. Let's talk about the tragedy of the commons. Oh, economic background gets to come in. I'm so happy. This is, this is, this is like the number one thing that like having an organization can help us all out. The Dark Ochre rule or now the Bistot rule, were both excellent at actually increasing our mining output by quite a bit because the, you know, of a tragedy of the commons type situation. So I realize that for the small solo miner that Kaznir just mentioned it is a bit of an imposition. It is a bit of a pain. But for the overall whole of Imperium and Goondom, it's it's a big benefit. So we're gonna test it out.
Someone asked about the punishment for breaking the rule. We haven't specifically said but, you know, expect anything from a plea, hey, please stop it, to your ship being blown up. Anything is possible.
Kazanir:
It starts with the finance director glaring at you. If you haven't responded to the glaring in an appropriate fashion, then it might escalate in a way that we haven't defined yet. Don't invite that upon yourself. Please.
Asher Elias:
You absolutely cannot shoot them yourself. By the way, we are not enforcing it like that.
Kazanir:
Right, of course not.
Asher Elias:
That's the Root of Madness.
Kazanir:
It, the, the reason this rule works is because it's easy to take a screenshot showing someone mining, not Bistot, in a, and a Bistot rock on the same overview. That simple. So the enforcement is easy. Just take a screenshot. Don't, don't shoot them.
Ranger Gama:
And send it to finance Director.
Kazanir:
Yep.
Ranger Gama:
And then we will deal with it from there.
Asher Elias:
Yep, it's just that simple. So overall, we're expecting this to increase mining by quite a bit. I went around and looked at some belts in around the 1DQ area a few days ago before the rule came in, and it was just all bistot. They weren't getting flipped. Someone was going through them, someone was mining everything but bistot and just leaving the bistot there, and while that is good for that one person, it is bad for everyone else who wants to mine those belts.
Thanatos asks if type C crystals are allowed. I believe that is the case.
Kazanir:
Yes, correct, especially on value ore yeah.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, on Bistot. Does anything stop someone from swooping in after you mine the bistot out yourself? No, not necessarily.
Kazanir:
If that becomes a problem and we'll keep track, we may have to institute like a belt possession rule like that. We will see how it goes.
Asher Elias:
We did not have a problem like that with Dark Ochre, like, especially not a pronounced problem. So.
Kazanir:
Basically, if you're on the field clearing the bistot with enough people, enough pilots to do it quickly, typically someone won't be able to then out cherry pick you, even if they're watching for those rocks to be gone. That, that is not an effective way for a miner to spend their hour, if that makes sense. So I don't anticipate that needing a rule, but we'll pay attention to it.
Asher Elias:
Lord Trenchard asks about allies cherry picking their relic sites in Delve. There's no cherry picking. Anyone has access to Delve. That's how it works. In the same way that we have access to all their space. If you're a goon, you can go anywhere you want in Imperium space. You can rat, you can do whatever you want. So, yeah, that's right. There's no such thing as cherry picking.
Kazanir:
Any data site that gets run in Delve is going to re pop in Delve.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, the leaving 1-2 boxes unhacked is annoying. I don't know if there is something we can really do about that, unfortunately.
Kazanir:
It's hard to catch, unfortunately. I have mentioned that to CCP, as a matter of fact. Good reminder.
Asher Elias:
Alright. Is fitting your Thanatos with officer mods for ratting a good idea. It's, it's a great idea. Yeah. Okay.
So, with the update to, this is a little reminder. With the update to boosts, the Claymore has been removed from Daka fleet, so it's just all Sleipnirs. Oops, all Sleipnirs so boosting and shootings both Sleipnirs now.
Some people, Kaz have asked if the rule includes regular asteroid belts.
Kazanir:
It does. We don't want to make a distinction for the time being just for the sake of enforcement and, and simplicity. I know that those don't have the same mechanics, but it's just easier to say bistot first.
Asher Elias:
There you go. All right. So that are I'm gonna go back to direction. Our long term direction is wait and see. Our short term direction is we are going to be implementing some stuff in the near future. And like I said, I don't want to reveal that, but I do want to encourage you guys, if you have not been you know, making your money, go ahead and do that. I've been seeing a lot of people doing it right now. It just feels like everyone I know in the last few months has gone into turbo crab mode. So, I'm hoping that's representative of the whole alliance. From the data that we have, it seems to be, it seems like everyone's been on that grind. And we're going to have a time to turn that money into excitement. That is, that is the plan. So our short term plans are, are set for now. Our mid and long term are a wait and see. And yes, I am number six for taxes in Goonwaffe. I was like number three a few days ago or at least a week ago, but I haven't really read it this week.
Okay. If you guys have questions. I am gonna open the floor to questions. So go ahead and ask them.
Can I sell you a cheap Wyvern I don't have a Wyvern, so, no,
Alterarri I, I encourage you to watch your children on the fireside.
What do I do to rat? I do Krabquals. Excellent way to make money. Relatively low inputs. And so yeah, I do Krabqualing to make money.
Eva asks, do you read my articles? Sometimes.
Do you still prefer the Chrysler 300 or the Toyota Corolla? I usually use the Toyota Camry Shoop as the example here. But so this is often my example for, for just about anything. But I usually use it for people. There are some people who are like the Toyota Camry of life. And that's like, it doesn't offend anyone. It's not meant to be exciting. The Chrysler 300, which is now discontinued, was a car that some people really liked and some people disliked. And I enjoy people who are Chrysler 300s. I like people who have sharp edges. And either love them or hate them. I find those people much more interesting than Toyota Camrys. If you're a Toyota Camry, sorry. This has nothing to do with the actual car. We're not, we're not voting on cars, guys. If you drive a Toyota Camry, that's, that's great.
When are we getting cat ears? That's a question that the CSM guys, I know they have talked to CCP about it. Because it was mentioned like three years ago. So CCP knows about the desire for cat ears.
Yep Miss tahira got into Illum for the first time and said nothing in our meeting, but that's probably a good thing listening up on the first one and seeing how it goes.
What needs to happen for Fraternity to break up with Horde and what could result from it? I don't know that there's a particular thing that needs to happen. Then what could result from it would mean that Horde couldn't time their structures and or SOV to Chinese time zone and would be more vulnerable to attack from us.
What's my predictions for the next patch? Trying to guess what CCP will do is madness, so I have no predictions.
How do you feel about Honda Civic drivers? I feel like, like, 20 years ago, there were like a thousand, you know, 21 year olds in souped up Honda Civics with loud exhausts, and I feel like I don't really see them nearly as much anymore. I think that must have been, like, a fad of the time.
Kazanir:
I mean, they're in their 40s now, right?
Asher Elias:
Yeah. The do not use POSes, when will they be unanchored? I don't know, and does that matter?
Is there a Zappy channel to find other people to rat with if we don't have five accounts? Rian, that's a great question, or Ryan, I don't know which one. Really good question. So Theta Squad is doing group ratting. Yep, and people are saying it in channel. Theta Squad is doing group ratting in Stormbringers, which is a great way to leverage yourself. If you have one Stormbringer or two, you can join the group, and then as you get your other accounts online, it'll let you do like, you know, lever yourself into doing it yourself. If you don't want to, you can still just continue to do it with one.
Ranger Gama:
Sarah, really? Not even a week? I hate you so much.
Asher Elias:
Sarah Bjorndotter asks about learning about Goon history. I think that's an awesome thing to do. Sort of a long ish term project I want to work on is getting some of the old Goon wiki back online. We kind of nuked the whole thing because there was just some stuff on there that was just unconscionable. But I would like to get some of that reviewed and brought back and be available. That was one of my favorite things to do when I first joined, was there was like, there was like a wiki page that had a month by month, this is what happened in Goons. And then Tuzzy maintained it for a long time until probably like 2020, maybe 2021. That's the way we probably should get back up going and I, I, I enjoyed reading them. So that's sort of a long term thing, but I think it's a great question and it's something we're working on.
I miss my wiki page, bring it back. I don't know which wiki page you're missing, but that's something that we, we, we want to do. I am a big history person. I like the history of Eve. I think it's one of the most exciting games to learn the history of. So that's something that I'm not gonna like, forget about.
Kazanir:
Feel, feel free to get involved and restore a wiki page. Talk to a wiki janitor as to help out. There's nothing stopping you.
Asher Elias:
What's your plan to stay ahead of our hostiles in terms of supers and titans? Good question, Zentron. So, hostiles are not really pushing supers and titans. They're pushing dreadnoughts. And that's sort of been their thing for years. That's actually why we were behind for a while. We've closed that gap a lot, but it's something that I keep saying. You know, build dreads, buy dreads, get dreads. And you guys are listening, and you're getting in. I read the thread the 3, 000 black dreadnoughts of FatBee. I read that thread at least three or four times a week to see what you guys are doing. So but there, it's not something they're focusing on. It would be very surprising if we were not ahead of them in that arena and that they don't, don't focus on it and really never have.
Dread lancer doctrine? No, dreads are lancers have a use, but they are very particular and not something that we will be doing a doctrine on.
Rimmer asks Asher, who is your favorite historical leader? Belisarius was a general in 5th century Constantinople, and potentially the best general of all time. I was working in my head on my list of the top 10 generals, and I have him either slot 1 or slot 2. You know, this is something I do just walking around. I'm not a nerd.
Skippy Africanus? That's a good choice. Good choice. He had a lot of endemic advantages, like By the point that he was fighting Rome was, had a lot of built in advantages. He was basically America in World War II, where, you know, they were making a bomber every 34 minutes. It's hard to lose when you're making a bomber every 34 minutes.
Kazanir:
I'm sorry, but does this make Napoleon number 2? I need the whole list. We'll talk later.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, yeah, no, I can release the whole list, no problem. Yeah, Napoleon 1 or Belisarius 1, that's definitely the preview of who's 1 and 2. Someone sent me a another message. It's about Alexander being number one.
I mean, Hannibal, I'm fine with Hannibal at number one. He was a great general. One of the earliest maneuver generals that I like him a lot. His strategies were very sound. He lost to the opposite issue, which is that he did not have support. That like that Rome had. He wasn't getting a bomber every 36 minutes.
Khan, Ghengis Khan, good choice, good choice. Alexander, I would say like, his thing was he his dad really paved a lot of the way for him. I don't think anyone doubts that he was a great general, but he he, he had a lot of advantages in that area.
Ranger Gama:
You are the biggest fucking nerds. Nah, nah. Wow. Even for EVE.
Asher Elias:
Klexos, no. I could definitely do a tier list video about Thresh, no problem. Bofa? Bofa was your favorite General. What's Bofa?
Snipereagle01:
Oh god, not like this.
Asher Elias:
What? You tricked me. Man, I feel so foolish.
Snipereagle01:
Got him.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, you got me. Alright, so I've been pontificating on generals for a few minutes, so if I missed a question, go ahead and throw them in there again.
Warhammer 40k or Warhammer Fantasy? I'm not really into either, but 40k is pretty cool. If you want to talk about 40k, there's a lot of people, but I think Merkelchen is getting pretty into that. I think he has like all the books now and has read half of them at least. I mean, I don't really read 40k cause I'm not a nerd, so, but I mean, I'm glad that you guys are.
Does the Leshak nerf affect our doctrine in any significant way? That's a really good question, Violet. We're not going to cancel the Leshak doctrine. It will have an effect on it, but right now we haven't seen it in action yet, but we don't believe it'll be a significant difference. Obviously in the fight that could change, but we're not concerned right now.
Rumor asks about new doctrines that could be coming in the next few weeks, we'll see.
A lot of 40k stuff that I don't really follow. I have not done, I have not done Hell Divers yet, and I probably won't. I only have, I only have love for two video games, and most of it, most of my time goes into this one. When I'm a line member, I will play more games. Democracy is non negotiable, Herzog, except when it comes to evil leadership. Then it's absolutely negotiable and it doesn't exist.
How many taco trucks, street tacos, can you eat in one sitting? This is obviously a very important question for EVE Online. I would say probably four, I guess. I don't know, dude. I'm not an expert in taco trucks, street tacos. Are they?
Snipereagle01:
You can really house those things. Yeah.
Asher Elias:
Yeah. All right.
Snipereagle01:
I like four inch corn tortillas.
Asher Elias:
How about seven?
Ranger Gama:
That depends. Do they put ketchup on it? That might be too spicy for you, Asher.
Asher Elias:
You know what? You're dredging up some old memes and that's valid.
Our democracy is managed solely by Asher. Yeah, so if you guys, I'll talk about this in a serious manner. The buck does stop here if there's a problem. It is, it is my fault. It is my responsibility in the end. That said, I the way we do things is very consensus building. I would say that most of our initiatives come from bottom up. And I would say that 95 percent of the time I'm, I'm just rubber stamping things and 5 percent of the time I'm saying we're not going to do that. You know, in our meeting today, we had something where I just said, Hey, that's not going to happen. Cause that's just not how I see things. But most of the time, most of the time, that is not how we work. We, we build consensus and you know, we have a lot of people who care a lot about this game and our subject matter experts. And so I'm going to listen to them because they generally know more about what they're talking about than I do. I am the decider.
Are we in hard times or good times? Excellent question. I like that question a lot. I would say that we're in good times. I would say that. We were in hard times a few years ago, and we are in good times now.
Can we be the democracy where incorrect votes are ignored and not counted? We already are that. Good question.
Yes, we need PI. There you go.
We are in goon times. I like that.
So are hard times coming? That's why we're crabbing. Enjoyable times are coming, hopefully. I mean, that, that is, that is the nature of nullsec, right? Is, you build up a war chest, and then you spend it on fun things. If you're here, if you're here to just build up a bigger number, if you like the big number and that's your wallet, then I guess that's a thing, but that's never appealed to me and I don't think it appeals the most to you. Like, why are you spending your time mining or ratting or crabbing in this game if not to have it blow up in a glorious space explosion? The truth is, is that of the 500 plus people in this meeting, you know 200 of you will have quit this game in the next three years. And if that's the case, then why do you want to quit the game with a larger wallet than someone else? It's just stupid. The thing I'm here to do is to help you make exciting memories. I want you to think back to your time here and say, Hey, that was really fun. That was really good. So that's my job. And if I don't do that, I failed. I have never said, Hey, I want someone to quit the game with a trillion isk in their wallet. That is a, that is a failure. I know a lot of you here are still here. We do have a decent amount of turnover, you know. I think that number estimate is probably correct. We add a lot of new people and then people get tired. Often times they come back though. That is, that is the one thing is people rarely quit this game. They usually just take long breaks.
Do you think CCP will do something about time zone tanking? It's a good question. It's a hard balancing act. To give them credit, it's hard to balance. You know, you would hate it if FRT could come in here in Chinese time zone and just blow our stuff up, right? There's gotta be some some amount of, of, of, you know, time zone centering. The question would be, is it centered correctly or is there a little more room to wiggle? Under the old POS system, you know, you could kite POSes and so that was something where you, if you were dedicated, you could move them. That kind of doesn't exist anymore. It's, it's, it's very rigid. So, I would say, and I don't know what they're going to do, obviously, but I would say that if they did something, I would imagine they would make it a little less, less rigid.
We don't know what a zealous retort says, we don't know what CCP will change. Do we have an idea of what their goal is with future changes? So they released a letter about a month ago now. It was pretty nebulous, but it said they're going to be looking at nullsec. So you can read the letter yourself and you can try to divine you know, I think they'll do. I don't, I don't think that you can make any hard assumptions just outta that letter.
Regarding the crabbing method of earning ISK, what is the alliance doing to increase the security of the crabbers? So , we have the beehive, which is a group that runs quite frequently and defends crabbers. And then we have ad hoc defense, which is people running around and defending people who are coming into our space that our defense system is extremely good is because essentially everyone copied it. Everyone has their own beehive now. And they use essentially our same doctrines, and they use essentially our same strate strategery. They use our strategery. So what we're doing is, is pretty much the, the standard, and we set it.
CCP needs to do nullsec shrinkage in much empty space, I would not be opposed to that Puke. It would be weird, but if they did it, I think we would do well.
Am I going to FanFest 2025? Unlikely, but always a possibility.
Verity asked about a dev blog some years ago. So, generally, anything that was mentioned years ago is usually tabled if it doesn't get done within probably a year. I wouldn't count on anything CCP said more than a year ago as a likely thing. Certainly not more than two years ago.
Do I expect jump bridge changes are inbound? Yes, I do. I don't have any information that says they are, but just judging sentiment, I expect jump bridges will be nerfed in some manner.
NPC stations in Drone Lands would be nice as well. Yes, that has been communicated to CCP about a zillion times. They certainly know it's a desire. And I'm aware that the CSMs on the other side, because they release a lot of the information to their guys about how they tell CCP that drone land space is terrible, and it needs buffs, and it certainly doesn't need NPC space. So, they're hearing both things from CSM representatives.
Beehive needs to be careful of overconfidence, as was shown recently. Do they, though, Lord Trenchard? Like, here's the thing. That BR was like 500 billion. As I've told you guys many times, I don't care about that BR. I didn't lose a moment of sleep or concern over that loss. 12 battleships, which is essentially what it was, it was 12 marshals and like one expensive fax, have no strategic impact on us at all. Everyone who got into those knew they were dead as soon as they got into them. It was just a matter of time. If you're flying a marshal around in the beehive, you're doing it because you'd like to be a pimp. But it is hard out here for a pimp. So you know, there is no strategic value to that kill. It is just an attaboy for the people who did it. And I don't think people need to be careful. Obviously, we want to try and deny that if we can, but It's not something that I have spent any time worrying about at all. I mean, not a single second.
Ranger Gama:
SIF fleet, best fleet guys.
Asher Elias:
I've seen some areas of fleet that could replicate that. Yep. Our guys are aware of them. They're tracking them. Part of it is just that we're often training new guys. And so they have to learn the same things that were learned before, but eventually they will learn that as well.
PVP Stormfleet when? I am fiending over here. So, Dan Boucher, good question. I think we have not done a ton because Stormbringers have been harder and harder to stock, and then a lot of our guys have been buying them for ratting purposes, so that decreases the stock even more.
It's something I want to do, but I am kind of waiting to see what the stock level ends up being, and if CCP improves that at all. Right now, a stormbringer is so much more expensive than the equivalent trig ship. And that's true for every class, Edencom verse Triglavian. I'm hopeful that CCP addresses that in the midterm.
Can we at least get a reminder that folks should use our tooling, not hostile tooling. Yeah, I think there was in dscan, Adashboard was down for a while. So people were using other DSCANS, but there's one that an INIT guy runs. So that was not really an issue.
Jackson, if you think beehive is lacking in a certain time zone, please become a guard bee. That is certainly something that we would like to see more of. We can always use more guard bees. We would love to have beehive up 24 7. No group has their beehive equivalent up 24 7. Looking at their up and down versus ours, I would wager that we have the most up time. Overall, but it's certainly something where we could use more, but it requires people who want to be in charge and have that responsibility you, for some time there, you know, we have more EU people in the alliance than any other people. So if you're EU and you'd want to have the beehive up become a guardbee and, by the way you can still rat while you're guarding other people ratting.
Kazanir:
There are perks, even.
Asher Elias:
Yep, and there are perks.
Yep. Nari says, or sorry, Nari gamble_aces says CSM suggestion, Edencom salvager to make salvaging less bad. So in 2015, I proposed the ore industrial titan, Gamble, which would be a titan that has a doomsday. You could warp it to an asteroid belt, fire the doomsday, and it would it would cycle all the rocks out and it would go on like a five hour cool down.
Help break the EU oppression of the directorate. Yeah, this is something I know I've talked about before. We have adjusted it. We have added more people from EU into the directorate, but it is harder to find EU people for various reasons that we're still not 100 percent sure about, though we have some theories. Americans are just number one, which is my theory, but other people from other non American countries have come up with other theories.
Serious question, what type of players were complaining about bistot leftovers in anoms? People who only have an hour to mine and they get in there, and they want to mine, and all it's left is bistot.
Utility says, excluding more dreads, what is the most important unit to be pushing for? So this is kind of weird, but I would definitely say that now, the most important thing would be getting battleships to 5, and battleship class weapons to tech 2. I know for a very long time, training battleships was more of an afterthought, but it certainly is not now. So if that's something your character doesn't have or your secondaries don't have focus on that. But the main thing I would say is build Dreads and then also Carriers are something we would like to be seeing a lot more of. So Dreads and Carriers are very important. Yeah, we haven't talked much about carriers. It's something I've been thinking about a lot. Right now, the carrier, I think it's probably, probably due for a little bit of a buff. And so, I think if we started making sure that guys were training for carriers, or even building them we could probably get ahead of the game on what I assume is a buff eventually happening.
Alright any more questions before I get to wrap this up? Large weapon 5 is a prereq for Dreads? I don't think so. I don't remember for sure.
Am I a nerd? Okay, Zintage says it is.
Snipereagle01:
It is. You don't need Battleship 5 for Dreads anymore.
Asher Elias:
You only need Battleship 3, I think. Yeah.
Someone asked, am I a nerd? The answer is no, I am not a nerd. Obviously not. The guy who runs one of like the largest video game clan in, in the world. Definitely not a nerd.
Will the Palantine be in 1DQ? That seems like the logical choice.
Are we the largest? I don't, like, I don't have any hard data on that buff, but I, we probably are.
If you have all Racial Battleships 5 trained on one character, does that make you a nerd? It makes you prepared.
How far in Palantine construction are we? We're the exact same place we are last week. We're talking about an immense amount of, like, PI minerals and everything else, so. It's, it's not something that's going to be like every week there's going to be more.
Can we give PH a keepstar in T5ZI? That would make it easier for them. I have literally Levitine, I've thought exactly about that. Like, you know, if we just gave them one, would they move in? That'd be really fun. But it would be really cool to have a keepstar, you know have them in a keepstar right next to us. But, Yeah.
Just got my first Dread Alt and Dread. What's next? Get 2? Violet, yes, you are on point. Dreads and more Dreads are the name of the game right now. I think that the Dread Gap is closing. I think that we're probably pretty close. We are not there yet. But we're much closer than we were six months ago.
Can we force Sopleb to keep a blog RE Palentine status? I do not think he would do that.
How many dictor alts should we have? I mean, one is good. More is better. But one, you know, would be more than most people have.
Rumor about the large numbers of Dreads from Ph and Frat in Delve NPC space are true. Indeed, they are Gojira. There are a lot of enemy Dreads in our space. It is something that we always have to consider whenever we are thinking about defending Ratters, defending Crabbers, or fighting in our own space, is that there are a large number of Dreads that can be undocked essentially at any time with Jump Clones with no notice. It is something that the enemy, our enemies do not have to consider at all. And you know, that's remember their space is terrible and it needs buffs and ours is great according to them.
Can you play this game with only one character? You can, it's better to use more.
I have dreads in awkward places from past deployments. Is there an alliance scheme to replace them? No, I would recommend just putting them on the market 10 percent below sell value. And you will sell them relatively quickly and then replace them in 1DQ will not be hard.
How long to train a Dread Alt from a blank character? That's Brett Powerful. A Zernitra is surprisingly fast. You can get into the hull in about 90 days. And you can get the guns I think another like 45 after that. So, it's a matter of some short months to get a Zernitra.
Twoford asks, doesn't that go against Alliance cap sale policy? Yeah. You can contract a contact, a finance director about that. If you have them far away and generally in that situation with a dreadnought ways away, they'll just approve the sale.
Kazanir:
Yeah. So I'll clarify. So always come talk to us for supers or titans. For normal capital, if they're close, if they're in bordering neighboring lows. Then you should bring them and sell them here. Don't sell stuff in like Aridia. If they ended up in like, asset safety in the forge or lonetrek or metropolis, those are fine to just stick on the market and sell in low. No problem. Don't worry about it. But supers do not do that.
Ranger Gama:
Same with Titans, Supers and Titans.
Kazanir:
Correct, super, supers and titans, any super capitals. So this, this should be all correct in the posted policies already. I'm not seeing anything new.
Asher Elias:
Zintage says about a year for a competent dread pilot, which I think is about right. Remember on a character like that, like a new character, you can inject, inject very efficiently. And so... that's what I would do, is that you can turn your isk into skill points very efficiently on new characters. You can even get those, like, new character injectors, there's lots of things that are good, like So, it's really easy to do it very fast, if you put a little effort into the mining part of it, or the krabbing part of it.
Let's see. Is there, Jaren Ragnar asks, is there a Zirn subsidy? So our experience with subsidies has been, they just don't work. And so we generally do not run subsidies. We try to incentivize things through other programs, but, you know, something we've talked about a lot, and we still have not seen, what we've seen is that subsidy almost never results in more ships being available. And this is going back a long way to, if anyone remembers a carrier for every hangar. That was something where we tried subsidies and it absolutely did not work, but that's a long time. Yeah. Kazanir mentions things that are like a subsidy, but we don't just do straight subsidies. We usually do encouragements, if you want to call them that.
Injecting was both good and bad for the game. I would say mostly bad, but it exists. And so, you know, you should use the system if it does. You're not making any point by, by not using it. Like it just doesn't matter.
Snipereagle01:
You can hate the meta. It doesn't mean you should ignore it.
Asher Elias:
Yeah. We hate the player in this case, but not the game.
As a newish player, this is numero games asking, should I just go straight for a dread on the second account or should I do something else and then convert it to a dread later? On your second account, yes. Straight to a dread. That's almost always the correct play for your second account. Your first account, your main account, obviously you train your subs, you do what you want to do there. Second account, straight to a Dread. And then probably a Carrier after that. And then usually on to the third account.
What Dread class do you prefer we stock up on? Hey, a question I answer a lot and I'm happy to do, River Rat. Zirnitra, Phoenix Navy Issue, Phoenix, Revelation Navy Issue, in about that order. You can train a Moros if you want. They're not our favorite dreads, but they're certainly... the only thing we kind of discourage is the Naglfar.
What to do after getting into a super or a titan? Undock them, I guess. So supers and titans are, you know, things that get used relatively rarely, but people like to have them, right?
You want to have the most access to a fight, you fly a subcap, and then probably a dread for that, then a carrier.
Bring back HAW titans. No, they were super oppressive. I've heard some, like people speculating that CCP will be working on, like maybe some kind of Titan Anom or something, which would be pretty cool. But I don't know anything about that. That was, like, on Reddit.
Yes, having your super pilot or even your pilot on your main is bad. Please do not do that. Please have it on your alternate account.
Haws on faction Titans? I'd 100 percent be okay with that. By the way, the Leviathan is kind of a Haw Titan.
T2 Titan when? That's a good question. I, I know, I know when Merkelchen was on the CSM, he was a big proponent of the T2 Titan idea. I don't know how much CCP took to that.
Since I just got my first Dread, I have no clue how to use it effectively. Is there classes for this? And when do we know when a PVP fleet go out for Dreads? So it'll be pretty obvious when Dread's fights are happening. How to use them effectively, they're not actually that hard to use but yeah, we will be running some classes. Carriers and supers are a lot more you know, knowledge intensive, but with a Dread, essentially, you jump in, you siege, and you shoot targets that are broadcast. It is not complicated to shoot, to fly a Dread. One thing to remember, if you're flying a Phoenix, this is like, if you're in like a Naglfar or a Rev and you shoot before you siege, not really a problem. If you're in a Phoenix and you shoot before you siege, it is awful. You have to siege first in a Phoenix. There's a big tip for you. Capital Simulator idea is not dead.
Brave is talking smack? What? We should be getting rifters.
Kazanir:
When is that again? I wasn't listening earlier.
Asher Elias:
Seven minutes. We've gone on quite long. I think I'll let everyone crack on to, Go ahead and get ready for that fight, or get on with your day.
Thank you guys for showing up. I appreciate you guys. I clap for you. Go show Brave the power of the Rifter, please. See y'all later.
