Fireside Chat Transcript 2024 03 23
Asher Elias:
Ah, yes.
Apple Pear:
Fair warning to everybody. It has been a weekend where we haven't had meetings. So, like, everybody is fresh now to talk.
Asher Elias:
Speak for yourself. I am tired. This is Boris' doing, Alterarri. Does it send you a director bot if you clap too frequently?
Boris Agnon:
Yeah, it does.
Asher Elias:
How beautiful.
Boris Agnon:
You can only clap for 5 minutes because otherwise your hands get tired.
Asher Elias:
Huh, huh. We're slowly turning Elysium into a, like a mud.
Apple Pear:
Oh man, good old days of muds.
Boris Agnon:
There's mysterious things that will happen if you clap more than like once.
Asher Elias:
Oh no. This is great.
Boris Agnon:
There's certain milestones you can hit.
Asher Elias:
Huh.
Apple Pear:
Oh no.
Boris Agnon:
Up to the fireside and clapping.
Apple Pear:
Did you, like make that, like, only, that it only works during the fireside or something like that? Otherwise, like, people stay clapping in Elysium all the time?
Boris Agnon:
No. But it will happily ban people from Elysium if they just shit up the channel by clapping every time.
Asher Elias:
Okay. I don't know. I don't think we should. Don't punish the people for expressing their feelings through hand motions, No.,
Boris Agnon:
I would like if you, like, build a bot to just clap 24/7 in Elysium and just shit up the conversation.
Asher Elias:
Well, yeah, okay. Okay. Okay.
Apple Pear:
Now, one thing you could do, like, have a director bot, if you clap more than five times after each other, and they're the same, like, and you just get kicked out of the channel or something, like, time out for 15 minutes. That would be funny.
Asher Elias:
I wonder if you could use the reminder bot to clap for yourself.
Boris Agnon:
No.
Asher Elias:
Ah, I thought little Bobby Tables would let it do it.
Boris Agnon:
People have abused it in Elysium, in Illum before to do things.
Asher Elias:
Oh yeah, I did that once.
Boris Agnon:
Yeah, so we fixed that.
Asher Elias:
Alright, let's get started. So we did no no meetings today for our directors. Everyone was putting in the good work yesterday. Is our, like, mumble server going down? We're dropping people like crazy right now.
Boris Agnon:
People stopped listening to the channel.
Apple Pear:
I think I think Vee is getting in a fight.
Asher Elias:
Oh, okay. That's fair.
Apple Pear:
Yeah. He was people were listening and when he was waiting for Everty to fight.
Asher Elias:
Okay. Well, that's fine. Okay. Perfect.
All right. Anyway welcome. We we had a very good day yesterday. Thank you to everyone who came out to come and blow up the two Sotiyos of the TTC. That was an excellent fight. I, I've been enjoying reading about the aftermath. For those of you who missed it, we we got in a slug fest outnumbered.
We came out about two to one on the on the BR, which, as you know, is not our primary objective, but always nice to be able to do. And we, our primary objective was to blow up those Sotiyos, which we did. If you're like me and you're a degenerate who reads the reddits I, I was greatly enjoying them saying, You guys, you guys weren't, weren't outnumbered.
You know, look at the BR. Only accounting for like the total number in the fight, not the actual fight itself where we were outnumbered. It's sort of like at the fight at their Keepstar a week or two ago, whenever it was, and there was like a thousand FRT in another system, and they just conveniently pretended that they didn't exist.
So, that's becoming a frequent thing that I've been enjoying seeing the malding about. One thing I've been thinking about a lot is, You know, it's, this is another time that we've gone in, waded in and assaulted something in their time zone. What have they done? Like, when have they done anything like this?
I am literally, I cannot, I cannot think of it. I'm sure it's happened, but like, when was the last time these people went on the offensive and assaulted something? And please don't tell me World War B. Like, that's, that's literally what I see them talk about. Like, oh yeah, we attacked you in World War Bee. When you had 3 to 1 odds, by the way.
Apple Pear:
No, I think they, they, they, they fought together against the XIX and now XIX is blue with them again. And like for a while, and I don't know if there's current status, et cetera, but was that not like the lot that they kicked XIX...
Asher Elias:
Initiative and them, you know, fought against XIX.
Apple Pear:
Yeah. And then, and then they did like the great assault of on, on, on bLOB like that, that was of course also.
Asher Elias:
No, I remember.
Apple Pear:
Great.
Asher Elias:
I remember, I remember them killing, killing, you know, Keepstars that were undefended. I do remember that.
Apple Pear:
Yeah. Yeah.
Asher Elias:
After we went in under their jammers, gated supers in and killed their Keepstar.
Apple Pear:
Yeah. Yeah. Those, those kind of things. Yeah. I think that that is their big achievements. Right? They're very proud of.
Asher Elias:
So these people are, I, I, I have a feeling, I, I know that a lot of them listen to the fireside and I feel like there are people out there who have the intrusive, you know, thoughts coming in because they know the same thing. They know it's true, therefore, the other team, you know, they support the other team and they don't want to admit it. But, you know, if you're listening to this and you're feeling those intrusive thoughts, just be like, yeah, they're accurate. Maybe I am on the wrong side. Maybe I should be on the other side.
Is this a therapy session? No, it's a call out session. Therapy is where you join us.
Apple Pear:
Maybe they should vote out Gobbins and like, install something, somebody else who's more aggressive and like, never runs from a fight, like Headliner.
Asher Elias:
So I can't tell, you just hit me over the top, Apple, sometimes when I think you're being serious and then you're being sarcastic. It took me a second to process. Goodness gracious. Alright make a call out reddit post, I don't, like, no, I don't need to, I, they, their own posts are the call out, man, like, their post, hey, here's, here's a picture of us shooting an abandoned Keepstar, go team.
Here's us fighting in Chinese time zone, even though we're not Chinese. Go team. Brisc will be doing a meta show, exactly, there you go, good job, Brisc.
Snipereagle01:
Don't forget, here's a picture of the BR, because it currently looks good, but you can't have a link to it, because we're gonna lose it a little bit.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, we're, I've, I've sniffed it right now. Please do not investigate any further.
Apple Pear:
The funny thing is after Sniper pinged that, they linked the battle report, not as a ping, but just in channel, they linked the battle report, so people could just see how the, the final total was. After Sniper pinged, was just too funny.
https://br.evetools.org/br/65fdcec21cb5170ff7a1ee32
Asher Elias:
So I do have a couple of things, although we did not have any meetings, the great disconnected directorate has given me a few things to tell you guys. The most important being, if we gave you a praxis in Jita, please contract it back to DJ's Retirement Fund. So if you got a ship, please contact her back to DJ's Retirement Fund. We've got like 140 back. There's a few left out there. We don't really want to run them down, just contract them back.
And then the other thing I wanted to talk about was someone gave me like way too long of a paragraph I have to read. Can I, can we give a big shout out to this, the Skirmish Commanders who stepped up to run reinforcements? Yeah that's actually a great call. So, I saw Yanni was doing it and there were some others, and I'm sorry I don't remember their names right now. But, that's always one of those, like, vital jobs that happens during during a fight. We were actually at a moment where Alterarri, that's a dumb, dumb photo. We had a moment during the fight where we like, we couldn't find you know, an FC and the team was like, well, who do we get to do this? And I'm like, just get a skirmish commander. This is how, you know, you know, this is how you get your your experience. Like when, you know, when there's an opportunity, I had an opportunity in 2014 when all the FCs were trapped in 10 percent TIDI and they're like, well, let's let this new Asher kid do something. Basically the same thing happened to me. So. Congrats to the dudes who stepped up.
All right, so that's all the things I have on my list to remind people.
One other thing, though, is that they are doing a mass test on Singularity, which is the 27th, I believe. And if you go, they will reward you with, like, a lot of Evermarks. I think 15,000. So if you want to help CCP test out some new TIDI systems and stuff, go there.
https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mass-test-on-singularity-wednesday-27th-march-at-1700/
Snipereagle01:
I'll step in for a sec, the important part of that is that if you've been on a cap fleet recently, you've probably undocked and then been like, dude, where's my keepstar? So they are testing things around solving that problem. And it's something that we've been very loud about, and something that our CSMs have been very loud about. So let's go let's go put 2000 people into that test system so that they can really get a chance to test it.
Asher Elias:
Great call out there. Yeah.
All right. So if you guys have any questions, they're on my way. I will try my best to answer them.
Snipereagle01:
Did I just completely steal what you unmuted to say, Kaz?
Asher Elias:
Have I said API? I have not.
Kazanir:
I was just confirming, yes, also do PI. But yeah the mass test is important. Let's goon rush it.
Asher Elias:
If you could erase one thing from history, what would it be? Altheon asked that. I would probably erase the moment that your parents conjugated you.
I heard something about an AU timezone Fireside. Yeah, we're gonna be doing one sort of soon.
Is that a verb? Yeah, it had to do with conjugal, so you're good. You're good, Jeremy.
Is there anything we can do, I, we can do with hostile blops staging in NPC delve? I mean, yeah, you could put a dictor there, but generally it's just something we have to live with. Please don't... please don't be ratting in a super with the beehive down.
Apple Pear:
Also have your super fit right. It helps a lot.
Asher Elias:
If the enemy is so weak, why not be even more hostile and hit them where it hurts? Theron asked that. That's a great question. You want to do this every week in Chinese time zone. The vast majority of people don't, so that's the reason that we do not go and hit them where it really hurts, because no one's interested in starting a war and fighting in Chinese time zone every weekend and every week. The other thing is that, I have said it on here before, we are, CCP's going to be changing nullsec in the short to midterm, and we're going to wait and see what they do. There may be some solutions to that, there may not.
Who do you think in Horde would be a better leader than their current one? I don't know. I don't know a lot of people in Horde.
What color are your shoes? I am wearing sandals.
Apple Pear:
I have some people asking about move ups for their big ships. I was planning to do it today, but there's another important thing happening today for GSOL, so we're doing some move ops tomorrow. So around this time tomorrow, and maybe one in earlier in Australian time, so maybe if I wake up. So tomorrow we have some move ups to get Capitals home.
Thunder Oskold asks, What kind of changes in Null can we expect? We don't know. I mean, that's, you know, the fun of CCP. We don't know. We'll find out when they announce it.
MyCuntSweat says, Pineapple on pizza, Asher? Don't let people tell you what to do. If you like pineapple on pizza, put it on there. I don't really do it, but you know, more power to you.
Socks or no socks with sandals. What am I, German? Of course no socks.
Snipereagle01:
He lives in Florida, not Boulder. Come on.
Ranger Gama:
Just for the record, guys marinara sauce, too spicy for Asher, he doesn't do pizza.
Asher Elias:
Huh? Thanks. You know, I don't know why you guys thought that because we do have meetings, you need to talk now, but apparently you do.
Snipereagle01:
We have all these words bottled up that we usually get to get rid of on Saturday mornings. And so you did this to yourself.
Asher Elias:
Yeah. Okay. Okay. With the shift into Warfronts, will Skirmish Commanders be getting new standing orders? Thorius asks that. You know, watch the channel. We'll see.
What about Stormbringer Ratting? It's great Pharos Warrior. I don't know what you're asking specifically about, but yeah. If you want to get into it and you don't have a full flock of Stormbringers yet, then you can join Theta. They are doing group Stormbringer ratting. So you can just use one as you build up your characters to it.
Dreads 101 when? And in general cap 101? That's something we've been working on, but various things like this timer have been getting in the way expect it relatively soon hopefully when we have a little downtime.
Do you like the Vanguard first person shooter? Says Tara Lekay. I used to be really good at shooters, or at least, you know. Pretty darn good. But I have gotten significantly slower and it's like, you know, trying to do something you're good at and finding out you're not very good at anymore. It kind of bums me out. I don't really do shooters that much anymore.
Apple Pear:
You're getting old, I hear.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, you're right. Will I get shamed for doing dreadcrabs outside of the umbrella? Potentially, yes.
Yeah Vanguard definitely needs, from what I've seen, a little bit of tuning before it'll be a good game.
Will there be a structure anchored in Khanid Aridia Kor-Azor for more moons to mine? Unlikely. We don't, I don't know. Moon, moon policy is not my number one thing, but I don't think that's something we're doing.
When can I use my Lancer Dread in a fleet? Not for a while, probably Internet Knight. They're, they're sort of edge case useful, but in general, not particularly.
Snipereagle01:
When hostiles come up with an offensive jump freighter doctrine.
Asher Elias:
Any other tax havens? Like I Choose You potentially in the future. So, you know, part of the issue with the TTC was how large it was. And They could, you know, shift it to Fortizars, but those will be easier to remove and also just letting the markets fill up with Plex and then knocking them down has a stronger deterrent effect than knocking one down a week later, which is one of the reasons that we waited after we blew up the Keepstar to do this. We wanted to let the market refill with Plex orders and then blow it up, not do it a week later when there were essentially no Plex orders other than the ones they were laddering to make it look like an active market.
Apple Pear:
So to all the people in the Imperium complaining about hey, I lost my plex orders also, don't put them in there again, because you might lose them again.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, I hope, I mean, so you weren't running in there. Yeah, that's more of what I'm thinking about.
Will we destroy the Ochinin Frat Trading Keepstar? Probably not, that's not on our radar right now.
War when? Says Steven the Pirate. So this is something I've talked about a lot already, but basically what you should be looking for and what you'll probably see in the near future is events rather than war, like this TTC event, you know, attacking the Keepstar the week before, that kind of thing. Those are what we're trying to provide that are exciting. The appetite for war in Chinese time zone is not really there. I talk to members a lot. Obviously, I talk to you guys here in a corporate session, but I talk to a lot of people in fleet and individually, and the appetite for war, continuous war in Chinese time zone is extremely low. So as long as that's the situation, we probably won't be departing for a long, grindy war.
Why does Asher sound like Wreck It Ralph? I didn't know I did.
Can they not anchor another Satoyo in Hi Sec, says Sraven Shadow. Nope, you can no longer anchor XL structures in Hi Sec. That is done.
Just joined, do we leave drads in HY-? What are we doing with that Apple?
Apple Pear:
What? What are we talking about? Capitals. I just told everybody that's capitals. We're doing move ops tomorrow.
Asher Elias:
Move ops tomorrow. There you go.
GB says translation, we are thirsty for war, but until CCP nullsec changes hit, we're going to continue peacetime stockpiling until morale improves. Yeah. Like I said, events is what we're offering now. You know, I also think like there were some first time TIDI enjoyers and experiencers that fight going, "wow, this is a, this is really slow." Yeah. That's TIDI for you. You have to, you know, you have to look at it as an event and a spectacle. Like that's how I feel about big TIDI fights is that they're not necessarily the most exciting, so they should be memorable.
Is the Ishtar the best ship to anomaly rat in Delve, or is there a better ship that costs less than 500 million? So, Malin Bar, that's a good question. If you were using one, the Ishtar is the best ship. As you get to more accounts in scale then you can start saying Stormbringers, like on a four or five account scale. That, that probably is better. But you can still run Ishtars on that scale. What you don't want to do is you don't want to run, you know, Paladins or any sort of Marauder. That's that's a trap.
Snipereagle01:
If you're looking for a cheaper low skill point option, Myrmidons are also pretty good.
Asher Elias:
Yeah I usually rat in Myrms because I don't pay any attention when I rat, so I'll turn on the shield alarm. You know, if I'm, if I'm doing crabbing, then I pay attention, but if I just don't want to pay any attention, I'll do a Myrm. I'll turn on the shield alarm and then if a neut tackles me, I'll fire up the MJD, and like, I'd say 6 times out of 10 I still get the Myrm out, which I think is pretty funny. Heat my reppers, MJD away. Laugh.
Are there any plans to get control of the perimeter market structures instead of them? Not particularly. We don't really want to do that.
Please yell at Mike for smoking. Mike, are you smoking? Seriously? Grow up.
Apple Pear:
He's probably way too stressed from being in the army.
Asher Elias:
What's better, Ishtar or Myrm? So in the terms of absolute ISK that you make, Hanzo, it is Ishtar, you will make more money using Ishtar. But Myrm will make about 80 percent of that, and cost significantly less, and is insurers for a good value. So If you want basically a Myrm after like two or three ticks, you're ISK positive with insurance. So if you're a lazy ratter like I am, then maybe a Myrm is good.
Did we have a follow up on the implant SRP payout question, says Benjamin Hayward. No, we were going to talk about it at our meetings today and kind of strategize a little bit on that, but no meeting. So we're gonna, that'd probably be a week or two before we have anything on that, maybe longer.
Did you go and see Dune? I have seen it in theaters twice. It's very good.
Ahead of the next fight, next TIDI fight rather, should we have a plan for a watch party for during the fight as you said? What movie sounds good? Yeah, I was talking about doing a watch party. I don't know, maybe we could make a Discord server and screen share, but I think you're limited to how many people you can screen share with. So, we have to figure something out.
Favorite Kirkland snack to sneak into a Dune movie? Asks Ghoster. So, I just go to Chick fil A and I bring it into the movie theater.
Mostly they don't care, but I have this thing where I just go, I asked your manager and they said it was fine to the person making minimum wage at the door and that has never failed to work. They're just not paid enough to care. So, the, I asked your manager, they said it's fine routine almost always works.
Unethical life hack? Is that really unethical? Like, is it unethical not to, like, not pay $16 for popcorn? I don't know.
Favorite ratting ship? I do rorqual beacons, yeah. That's correct.
Lying is unethical? Maybe. You don't know that I didn't ask the manager, though.
Snipereagle01:
There's a question about the Bistot rule in Scrollback. We're waiting to see this month's MER to make any decisions.
Asher Elias:
Asher you gotta think more of the movie theater owner's CEO. Good point. I'm basically taking money right out of his pocket.
Snipereagle01:
He won't notice that five bucks unless he works for AMC.
Asher Elias:
Yeah.
Apple Pear:
But what if people get bonuses for all the sales they do on the counter etc. So then you're stealing from all the hard working people there.
Asher Elias:
Apple, if you think I ever pay movie theater price food, you do not know how cheap I am.
What is my opinion of the Dune popcorn bucket? That is literally probably the only movie theater food I would ever buy to get that bucket.
Boris Agnon:
Apple, you're Dutch, you're supposed to be saving money whenever you can.
Asher Elias:
Is there any chance the Wyvern fit is going to be posted in the forums? Do you mean like, how to fit your Wyvern for a super fleet?
Apple Pear:
It's on the forums.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, if it's not there, it should be there. I can check after this, but it should be there.
Snipereagle01:
It's there. You just have to be, in the....
Apple Pear:
Okay. Yeah, you, you have to go to the super forums that the forum that is connected to be having a super, and then you can see the fit there.
Asher Elias:
Are there any structures that are hostile ward decks that I can't touch? We generally have a, like, we have a post that says what you can and cannot hit as far as structures. So you can look at the post.
Snipereagle01:
If we have a wardec, target, something. Yeah, you can shoot it.
Asher Elias:
Any update on the approved Third party apps topic? That's something we were talking about a few weeks ago, but I don't remember off the top of my head. It's something we wind up talking about a lot. We talk about dev work a lot in our meetings.
Favorite Motley Crew song. I don't know. What's Motley Crew song. They're a little before my time. Yeah. Yeah. Shame. Shame.
Nemahs Aideron:
It's kickstart my heart. Clearly the best one.
Asher Elias:
There you go. Classic CUTL.
Thunder child ratting SIG when? So Thunder Children are inferior to the Stormbringer in just about every way as far as ratting goes. So, I would not I would not start a ratting sig for it because they're not as good as Stormbringers, rat in Stormbringers.
Like, the money that you make up, first off, ammo is super expensive. Second, the ship is super expensive. Third, any money that you make up in faster clear time is lost by warp speed. Stormbringers are just better.
Snipereagle01:
And, and by dying in them. Yeah. Which, if you look at the kill board for thunder children, they they explode a whole lot more.
Asher Elias:
Yeah. People, it's, it they're kills that people want, and so you have to like, you have to make so much more money just to initially replace the value and then you're making less, shooting more expensive ammo and wasting time warping. So I just don't think they should ever be used. I think they're one of those things that like, if you just look at the tiny number, like, oh yeah, I'm making one mil more a tick than I would in the Stormbringer, maybe. It, maybe it makes sense. But if you think about that, if a Stormbringer costs, let's say 700 million and a Thunderchild costs, you know, 2.2 billion, that one mil difference has to make up that entire time, you'll never get there. You'll never get there before you lose it.
Is the Stormbringer group ratting Theta open for Alliance members? Yeah, you can join Theta, anyone can join. Janelle points out that Stormbringers kill their droppers like the in-cynos quicker, too.
Snipereagle01:
Yeah, it's really fun if you do it with a friend and bring a lach for one of the characters in your fleet and then get dropped on, and you're just like, ha ha, you're pointed at 50, and then they die.
Asher Elias:
Are you planning on doing something with PH Farming Sansha LP Burner missions right under our nose? It's one of those things where people have gone in there and hunted people down, but it's relatively hard to hunt down, you know, people hunting, doing LP. So if it's something you want to dedicate yourself to, please do. But you know, it just takes a lot of setup to stop that.
Snipereagle01:
I'm sure our Russian neighbors killed them frequently.
Asher Elias:
Alterarri Phoenix says, can I give you more smug? I mean, you can try. This better not be, okay, it's not PancakeCat. Nice, I love killing structures under their nose. Well done. Awesome. If you cast your mind back to let's say a year and a half ago, you had Horde coming into our space basically every day attacking us, hitting our structures and reinforcing them, being annoying, annoying, and generally looking like an organization with a sign of life to it. And then all those FCs, essentially every FC who would actually proactively go into our space, quit. or left them. Some of them joined goons. When was the last time you saw a horde fleet that wasn't a bomber fleet in Delve? I don't, I don't think it's happened for a very long time. Okay, people are saying last night, yesterday. Okay. Oh, Zigam. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Our guys are going into their space all the time. And,
Snipereagle01:
What about a fleet that actually wants to fight goons instead of just killing them?
Asher Elias:
I understand. Maybe, you know, since we're going into their space, they just don't even want to come into our space and fight. I get it. They bring in a frigate fleet sometimes.
Kazanir:
It could be Jackdaws.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, true.
Snipereagle01:
Nah, we're talking about Horde, not PL, Kaz.
Asher Elias:
Yeah. Well, PL could bring Caracals, too. Don't forget, it's not just Jackdaws, it's also Caracals.
Kazanir:
I guess I can't keep my pandemic straight.
Asher Elias:
It is pretty amazing. Like, PL used to be like a highly respected group in this game, even, you know, by their enemies. And now they are a Jackdaw and Caracal flying organization.
Kazanir:
Five time Alliance Tournament winners.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, it's so cringe, man. Oh, it's so cringe. It makes me laugh every time. I was talking to some of the, some of the directors today and I'm like, should I should I edit five or have my in game title be five time Titan fight winner in there, would that be equally cringe? Is that how you fight the cringe? You just embrace it yourself.
All right. Any other questions?
All right Alterarri. I get it. You got a lot of kills. Well done. When was the last time you fell for a scam? Well, I joined Goonswarm in what? 2013. So that probably then.
Can we get more actual bombing fleets? So bombing fleets are super useful. But they're..., let me, let me put it this way. You used to go on Boat fleets, right. And you know, one out of 10 times you would get a big explosion, maybe. So it was like, whiff, whiff, whiff, whiff, whiff, whiff, giant, you know, burst. of, you know, enjoyment, right? And bomber fleets are not like that anymore. They're, you don't really ever see an entire fleet explode, unless you get really lucky. They're more a thing that adds pressure and load to the FC. And if you've ever been bombed in one of our fleets, and then everyone broadcasts while the FC is yelling, don't broadcast for bomb damage you know how annoying it can be, especially for logi. So you have to be the kind of person who enjoys, like, knowing that you're doing that. You know. And, and a, a steady trickle of bombs is actually a lot more effective these days than, you know, 40 bombers doing a vector attack.
Do we Blops drop them like they do to us in Delve? FRT has been doing that a lot and I would like to repay the favor. So you've come to the crux of the issue. We do have, and I have been myself at times, logged off in their space, but you have to like infiltrate their space. You have to leave that character entombed inside the blops. And it's just hard to get, you know they have a thousand characters in NPC Delve just with jump clones and getting a thousand characters to log off in their space is basically an impossible task. You know, the last time I had my character out there, it was out there for like three months and I couldn't do anything else with it. So, you know, It's the difference between having NPC space and not. And so they do get to rat with a lot more impunity out there.
Janelle has a good point about how modern Battleship fleets up about twice the EHP of what they did and Bombs have been nerfed several times. So, yes, you are correct. That is why they fight NPC space in the drone lands so hard. It's because they have that's actually what's more impressive about how we usually win the MER is the fact that they have every advantage and we're still winning.
Warp, warp, warp. If you warp, you're dead. Yes, indeed.
Alright, any more last second questions? Do we have an answer? I've never done a PI session.
Praxis doctrine, when? I mean, other than the one we did yesterday, probably going to stay in high sec. They're, they're not actually that great of hulls, Matty. They're just, they were just good for that particular job. As far as I know, they're the only battleship that doesn't have the extender and armor plate bonus. So they have the EHP of like an old battleship. Yeah, they were good. They did a lot of pressure. I can't tell you guys how happy I was that they were priming my Rokh fleet. Like I saw something in their chat about how I must be just malding that my fleet is being targeted. Oh yeah, I was super mad that everyone was shooting our Rokhs while we were killing their paladins. That was, that was a real painful experience for me, guys. That was rough. Oh no.
Apple Pear:
Like, four of our Rokhs cost as much as one of their paladins, so like
Asher Elias:
You existed, dragon. That's why you got primaried. Yep, exactly.
I was, I was so upset as their paladins were dying. Last time I read, they lost 200 billion, we lost 110 billion. I think the last I saw was like 225 to 115. Which is pretty crazy. You know, we... we had to kill two Sotoyos while they were doing that, and they heavily outnumbered us until the end when they gave up. Once the numbers were even, even though we still had to shoot the Sotoyo, they're like, Yeah, guys, this is, this is too much for us. The numbers are even. We better leave. We better run. Just, I, like, I know I harp on this a lot, and I do it because it's important. That is the difference between us and them. We went and fought them at the Keepstar last time. They outnumbered us. We took the fight. We're going to keep doing that. We're going to keep doing that. And I know a lot of you enjoy it. I know that's the reason a lot of you are here. I just want you to know that we will keep doing that.
Someone posted a BR for Tetra.
Other than that, I will wish you guys a well, looks like we got one more question here. Asher, why do we do so well in the fight? Shouldn't their paladins have obliterated us? No. I mean, they, they basically have given up on paladins in nullsec. So they brought them to highsec because like, yeah, I mean, there's, there's some things where, you know, when your enemy's making a mistake, you don't correct them. And the way they do certain things in paladins you know, their FCs are just, it's just their FCs, that, that's who they are. And I'm gonna just let them keep doing what they do. They do a great job at running those paladins. I think they should keep doing it.
All right, that's all I'm going to say for today.
Thank you guys for coming to the fireside. I will see you next time.
