Fireside Chat Transcript 2025 03 15
Asher Elias:
Hey, what up guys? What's going on? Can we get rid of Daylight Savings Time? Oh yeah, this is definitely the first one after Daylight Savings Time change. Yeah, I'm using my, I'm using my good mic, not, not the crappy one. Hello, my parasocial friends, Sapphire. It must be very noticeable because whenever, whenever I turn this thing on, you guys immediately comment on it. Malbrox, there are no good mics. Hello InvolvesRelian, did you just give yourself the title of the best bubbler? You know, you're not allowed to pick your call sign, right?
Apple Pear:
You have to beat Ultra Cow before you can get there.
Asher Elias:
That's like, you know, it's like people think that these, you know, fighter pilots, that they pick their name like, you know, Ghost Rider or whatever. No, they don't. They get given a name and it's not, it is not complimentary.
Apple Pear:
Oh, Lavender. Yeah. I still need to respond to that. I was a bit busy. I will get to you.
Asher Elias:
My call sign is spicy.
All right, let's go here. So here's the story in 12 minutes, the fireside will be ending because the jump bridge in UALX is coming out, not in the way you just thought of. I probably should have phrased that differently. It is coming out of ref and we are going to form 255 basilisks. Scimitars, basilisk preferred. So get in your basilisk, get in Apple Pear's fleet right now. Just fill up Apple Pear's. Don't worry about Winter Time. Just fill up Apple Pear's fleet right now. I want to get 255 basies, ospreys. And then you can do a scimi or a scythe and we are going to just group hug our jump bridge and it'll be 255 logi and one monitor. We don't need armor logi. We just need shield. So hop in now, hop in Apple Pear's fleet. I want to see this fleet full of logi. Every single ship is logi. You may not bring your Drake unless your Drake has shield reppers. I will allow that. You need to link your fits and prove it though. We don't need faxes. We're going to get this thing with 100 percent subcapitals. So get in right now. Get in right now.
All right. So I want to talk about the patch, a very excellent patch from CCP. I liked, I told you guys, I think last week that I really liked the actual blog. They did a great job of explaining their thinking and then the patches dropped and we are extremely happy with it. Brodog, are you fine with me announcing the numbers? I don't see it being a problem, but you know, let me know if you don't want me to say our numbers. But we are extremely happy with the patch. They have, they delivered a lot of good changes and our directorate has been pretty, pretty overjoyed. Yeah. The ratting bounties thing has been, has been a bit of an issue where we're probably going to bring that to them, but I haven't talked to our guys yet, but that's, that's something I'd like to see them, I think what happened is I think that basically they did not take into calculation that, that the MER, not MER. I'm totally blanking. What's the thing where it goes from 100, 200 percent in the system? I can't even remember what that was called. BRM. Thank you very much. The BRM was broken for about three months. And so it was just artificially boosting the numbers when they fixed that ratting went back down, but, they made changes before it was really reflected. Like it had already dropped by quite a bit. So, we'll see about that. We'll definitely have our guys talk to them about that.
And I wanted to say, you know, thanks to our, our GSOL guys. Thanks to our infrastructure guys, and a couple of directors who worked hard on it. We now have 25, that is 25 Tier 3 mining anomalies. As far as I can tell, that dwarfs any other alliance in the game by quite a bit. I have done a little research and from what I can tell, no one else is anywhere near that number. So we have 25 tier three mining anomalies. There is a lot of rocks to suck out there guys. And so we definitely want you guys on in mining ships, building, we're talking about a couple of things we can do with the mineral excess. And so that might be something we, we announced in the next few weeks, as far as maybe some interesting ways to use them.
A couple of people say my sound is bad. Is that actually true? Is that, are they?
Apple Pear:
No.
Asher Elias:
I'm replying to one guy. Okay. Yeah.
Brisc Rubal:
That is not true.
Asher Elias:
Excellent. Excellent. Excellent.
Apple Pear:
The fleet is not full yet. So people, more people should join us.
Asher Elias:
Don't say that, Heidi, you know, Brisc will spend 8,000 dollars on a mic now. So.
All right. I want to do a quick poll actually. So if you've been mining since the patch, would you X-up if you've hit an escalation? If you've hit a mining escalation since the patch, I'm just curious. They see how many people, we have been wondering, we were kind of discussing that in our Illum meeting today. So throw an X in there. One guy has three. Okay. Better to be lucky than good. I suppose Navy seal.
Snipereagle1:
I've got links covered for the logi, by the way, guys. Don't worry about it.
Asher Elias:
Yes. Omri, I agree with that. All right, I actually didn't have a lot to talk about. So we have a lot of irons on the fire as far as director stuff, but nothing I want to bring to you guys yet. So we got, we got seven minutes of questions. Go ahead and throw them out and then we will be hopefully one shotting this jump bridge in one cycle.
So any concern about the T3 anomalies being mined out? The respawn timer is quite long. Yeah. So we have. 23 T3s and 26 T2s, right? And we've actually, we were actually able to mostly not hit ratting to do that, but that is a lot of mining anomalies. We've calculated, I believe the number is, uh, 600 hulks mining four hours to hit depletion and that's a lot of hulks. So if we hit that, then it's a concern, but I don't think we're going to hit that. So yeah, not, not super concerned. We basically set it up for the initial rush and the initial rush seems to be being satisfied. I imagine it will die down a little bit, but as people see mining more and more viable, maybe it'll go up. We'll see.
Speaking of mining, if you are in a Rorqual, you are welcome to use Beehive. Beehive is not just for crab beacons. It is for, you know, protecting our capital ships that are doing PVE and other things like that, and mining certainly qualifies. So if you're in a Rorqual that is used to being used for mining, feel free to join Beehive, it is also for you.
Snipereagle1:
There's a SIG for Rorquals to apply to, that's called worker bees. So that you can get into comms and whatnot with Beehive. Thank you, Xiopa,
Asher Elias:
As mentioned, that is not including moons at all.
Is Marauder ratting still viable? It was never a great idea, Kobayashi, and it still isn't. It can be done.
Are we pushing our CSM to review the Ansi bubble BS. You mean just being easier to bubble? That was a CCP design goal and it will probably not be changed in the short term. So we're definitely not pushing them to review that because we don't think that would be a wise use of our political capital. Some things you can push and some things you can't. We're not going to push on that. We'll see how it plays out for us. We're definitely going to make, we're definitely going to make them. Sorry, we're going to make some judgments on it first. Then we'll see.
Apple Pear:
I'm very happy about it, by the way. And it is just back to the jump gates, like how it was before, of jump bridges, how it was before.
Asher Elias:
I see you guys keying up. I do not hear you.
Snipereagle1:
Well, while he looks at that, I'll talk for a sec. I've seen a lot in fleets recently of people joining a fleet and asking about fits. I know some of those are probably from allies that don't have access to this, but I look at the names and plenty of them are goons. All of our fits are stored in Alliance fittings. So if you go into the fitting window. Yeah, like, see, there we go, another person, Basi fit, and they're in AMOK for four years. So if you open up your fitting window, go to hulls and fits, and make sure that the circle of stars is enabled, which is alliance fittings. If you just search for the hull type, it will show you the fits for all of our doctrines. In Apple's fleet, someone's even linked a helpful thing that you can click on that will point right at it for you. But yeah, so you can do that. Fitting team keeps those updated.
Apple Pear:
Are people being helpful?
Asher Elias:
Yeah. I can hear you guys now, but, someone says She Who Endures says it's my impression that the ansi changes were designed and approved by the CSM. So, yeah, that that is, I think, a deep misunderstanding of how the CSM works. The CSM does not design things. They may have suggestions. They certainly do not approve things. That is, they are, have you ever watched, like you ever see where they go to those focus groups and they say, what do you think about this? What is your opinion on this? You know, and they have someone standing behind the glass watching it. That is more what the CSM is like. The CSM doesn't get any, you know, workstations at CCP. There is, yeah, so there's no designing or approving by the CSM. The CSM is an advisory committee, so they can advise, and it's up to CCP to, you know, listen or implement. And sometimes they do, often they don't. You know, CSM is a tough job. So, you know, thank you, CSM reps. Because sometimes there are people at CCP who are convinced they know everything and they really don't. And then some of them, people are really good. We're pretty happy with the direction they're moving right now, but the CSM definitely didn't design or approve anything.
Snipereagle1:
I hear that people that join the CSM expecting it to get to design EVE leave very disappointed.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, they, there are a lot of people who join the CSM who end up leaving, and that's one of the reasons I've never done it, is because I, I think I would be very frustrated at that.
Apple Pear:
Everybody make sure you undock, by the way.
Beyondnoxx_UNP:
What is this, no tie dye?
Snipereagle1:
Don't jinx it.
Apple Pear:
I'm at least for one thing very excited with the new jump, of the old, getting the old jump bridges back, so, people are not going to burn ahead in my fleets anymore.
Kazanir:
Yeah, I mean, what Asher said is totally accurate, thanks for the vote of confidence. We did give feedback on a variety of things in the patch. I'm happy it's being as well received as it is. You know, were we looking for an Anciblex "nerf"? Certainly we were not. At the same time, projection has been a topic on and off in the community for many years. Current Anciblexes are much stronger than the original POS jump bridge in a variety of ways. And so I was happy to see them try something small first, and then we can see how a different meta plays out. And it's especially one with the focus on tackling that is responsive to player efforts in the sandbox. Right now you can do more things against the Ansiblex. I don't think the refing thing is as important. It's also interesting in its way, but the ability to apply effort at weak points and slow down a reinforcement fleet that would otherwise have gotten there and change the tide of battle, I think, has a potential to have interesting outcomes, you know.
Asher Elias:
And let's also just say, you know, if CCP goes to the CSM and say, hey, we want to, to change projection, then the CSM gives feedback on that. Like CCP has a goal. By the way, we do not want FAXes on this. So I see you guys warping your Lifs out there. We actually do not want, we actually do not want a FAX on this. So please go back to the keep. Yeah, we're going to try and do this with, I see two, two FAXes. Now those dreadnoughts. I presume you guys have reps on them.
Snipereagle1:
The other nice thing about the change, right. Is that, like obviously we're, we're being a little, memey about it here. But now we don't have to sit around for half an hour waiting to see if somebody comes to shoot an anciblex we can just throw reps at it and rep it up and be done.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, like that is a serious benefit.
Someone's asking about 0SHT. Yeah, we've, we had a slight pause in the last, I don't know, three or four days, but we're not done there yet. And we'll be getting active again pretty soon.
Brisc Rubal doesn't like the renaming of the jump bridges, but I like that, so, you know. It just shows that you can have the wrong opinion, even if you're Brisc.
Brisc Rubal:
How dare you.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, wait, you're can unmute yourself Brisc? This is a problem. Can someone address that? I thought he hadn't figured it out yet.
Snipereagle1:
He's talked multiple times in the fireside. You just had your audio fucked up.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, fair enough.
All right, we've got 15 seconds. Let's see how quickly we can rep this thing.
Farel says jump bridge sounds more natural and I do not like the change either. So you're saying you, I'm confused by that. Rep it. Launch it. I repped it and got tackled. Yeah, that is weird. Whoa. Whoa.
Apple Pear:
Nice. Overheat your reps.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, I love this.
Apple Pear:
Has the 10%, has the 20 percent tackle timer, is the 10, 20 percent tackle timer over yet? Yeah. Yeah.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, that was about, I would say that was about 25 seconds. Didn't you guys think?
Apple Pear:
That's an easy strat pap for everybody. Congratulations.
Asher Elias:
There you go.
Apple Pear:
Of course you get a pap.
Snipereagle1:
People are asking, we're gonna do a gate move op in two weeks, on the 5th. We'll put it on the calendar.
Asher Elias:
Faustus says, that sucks, what will we do with the other 29 and a half minutes?
Kazanir:
Story time.
Apple Pear:
Everybody, this was amazing, it was so fun, oh my god.
Asher Elias:
I really like that SHADO showed up ready to defend us, look at that, look below us, look at that SHADO Cyclone Issue Fleet.
Apple Pear:
Yeah, make sure you get off the, of the gateways, like, if you're people still, oh, everybody's here now. Okay, dock up, thank you very much.
Kazanir:
Someone, someone did it again in Elysium, and so I'm gonna rant. This whole parasocial meme just continues to pisses me off, piss me off, that, what's his fuck, use that term. Because a paraso, we do not have parasocial relationships, this is a social relationship. In this alliance, we talk to each other, we are on comm, that is a, that is what social relationships are, right, as you speak to the people. Parasocial relationships are one way where you are sitting there imagining that you have a relationship to some poster on a social media site who has never actually interacted with you. That's a parasocial relationship. That is not what is going on here. Okay, rant over. Thank you.
Asher Elias:
I mean, I generally agree, like, you know, a lot of people message me, some people message me. They say, Hey, I had a kid, you know, Hey, I got a new job. Hey, I graduated all kinds of stuff and I appreciate that I can be someone who you can share like a life goal or achievement with. That's cool. Like, that's great. I, I don't want that to be the situation where you guys are like, Oh, I can say that to this guy. No, that. Yeah. So for me, that's a privilege and a right, not a, you know, something that's something special. That's cool. That's why I also agree with you Kaz. I thought that was a very silly statement, but it also really showed his mindset. Right.
Kazanir:
I guess.
Asher Elias:
I think I've been thinking about this a lot and I haven't really mentioned it to you guys, but one thing I was thinking about is how they, they often talk about how they don't have flame outs. Right. And it's not true, but they, they do have like less, they have less like noticeable ones. And like my take on that is, I think that's because people really care about what we do. And so they get a lot more invested and involved in this, and if their ideas aren't taken, sometimes they get very annoyed. And to me, that shows that they, you know, that they care that they're committed. You know, if you've been in a relationship, the worst thing is when people just stop responding and stop caring. Right. So, you know, I view that all as a positive personally.
Ruach says, hey Asher, by replying to this once it becomes a social relationship. What up, buddy?
Kazanir:
See? That's what I'm saying. Thank you.
Asher Elias:
Goonswarm social media site when? Uh, yeah, it'll be a site that sells masculine social media. It'll be a big deal. I'll be dropshipping from China. It'll be pretty cool.
Kazanir:
I've heard they have these things called forums. We should get one.
Asher Elias:
Will Dunn, Will Dunn says, What if I want my relationships to be parasocial? Just stop talking, dude. You'll be good.
Want to buy modern forums? There is no such thing, Sharp. Like, literally, modern forums don't exist. Also so much of our infrastructure is tied into that, that old ass forum that, like, that is not changing.
Kazanir:
Listen, the forums outlived--.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, that's true. Yeah. We're announcing today, you guys, that we're switching to Teams. We're getting rid of Jabber and Mumble and Discord just going straight to teams.
Beyondnoxx_UNP:
I want to quit now.
Snipereagle1:
Yes. CCP making EVE run better has opened up the CPU cycles to run teams.
Asher Elias:
Yeah. Yeah. We're good.
Beyondnoxx_UNP:
Thank you for your donations.
Asher Elias:
Speaking of which guys, yeah, we had like a really good donations last week. I wanted to thank you guys. A lot of you guys stepped up and donated on a one time donation. I also want to thank everyone who does the monthly donations. Those monthly donations are key for us because it allows us to budget, which is obviously extremely important. We are, you know, we pay for our servers, all the stuff that we run, we pay for, has a pretty high monthly fee. We're actually looking to do some things now to lower that price a little bit. And we are upgrading some stuff as well. So it's all going to be used very well, but I wanted to thank you guys for donating. We appreciate you guys putting your faith in us.
All right. Oh, was someone actually thinking we were going to teams? That was, that was sarcasm. Hopefully you figured that out. Yeah.
Snipereagle1:
The official second language of Goon Swarm.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, I didn't I didn't enjoy I think powerful was the one who posted it the me roasting a guy in fleet on on the EVE subreddit a couple days ago. Thank you for sharing the fleet experience.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bCTfst3BExY
All right, we got any other questions So I'm gonna go and answer any that you got and then we'll wrap up so throw up what you got
How many more T3 mining upgrades there are no more planned currently? We have 26 as I said or 25 that is so 25 currently and we'll see if we need more But it seems like right now we're in a good position
Snipereagle1:
Pineapple Harley, please don't make Zintage rant for 20 minutes about how shit the Scimitar is. I agree. I like non chain logi, but that doesn't make it good.
Asher Elias:
Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna keep using what's good. You know, obviously there's a lot of doctrines that people want to fly. You know, there's people who want a box and people who want to be in scimitars and all kinds of stuff. But, you know, you can't, you can't force the doctrine to fit, you know, that jump bridge that we just rep or repped in 28 seconds was, you know, killed or reffed by 35 billion lost in Ikitursas. And I was just talk, talking about how that's a terrible doctrine for null. So just you, you can't force it. You have to, you have to play what the, the meta dictates and, and try to discover new things. That's certainly what we try to do. But yeah, right now the Scimitar, not the greatest hull. It could be used, but it's, there are obvious benefits to the Basi. And then another, like an Apoc, for instance, just sort of been outclassed in, in the battleship doctrine. No, no, no league analogy this time.
Snipereagle1:
For people asking, there's the forum posts that has the. For people asking in specific locations and people asking about like, oh, well, there's a jump bridge to here. It'd be really nice yet. So jump bridges use a lot of workforce as do T3 upgrades. So you will see that there are not many that are right next to jump bridge systems because we usually have to import for jump bridges. So we've, we've put a lot of work into getting as many as we have. And yeah, like we're not gonna, we're not going to take down jump bridges to put in mining upgrades or something like that, but the 25 that we have, not to mention that it's not like we've ripped out all of the, all the T2s either. There's a lot of rocks out there.
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LustQin says, so time to whack some Frat. So, you know, Frat is literally the opposite of the galaxy from us. And for the time zone we're currently in, not well timed. We do have, we do have SIGs and in time zone group appropriate that are going after them, but I would say that is certainly not at the forefront of our mind.
When are we knocking on PH door? That's very much a future plans thing. Obviously, you know, I would like to be there tomorrow, but you have to do these things in a way that will set us up to fight and win in an appropriate manner.
Boulder asks cyno beacons back on the menu? I don't know what that means. As far as us putting them up, probably not likely they are, they take a reasonable amount.
Apple Pear:
Basically, any questions about how the space is, like, can we get that, can we get that, and et cetera? The answer is no, because we have some people who pretty much spent at first weeks and now a few days also optimizing all our space to make sure we get the max out of it. So they really worked hard on that. We should be very proud of them doing that. And just the answer is no, we're not going to change anything.
Asher Elias:
I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't go necessarily that far, but because we certainly have made changes as time has gone on, but it is, it is a really hard to balance situation. You can't just plug things in like you could before.
So we have done the best balancing that we can, and we do get requests, you know, a Corp CEO will message us, Hey, can we get a Bookmark or sorry, can we get a jump bridge right here to the system? And generally in fact, almost every time it's happened, we just have to say no, because, you know, sometimes they ask for a system that doesn't even have the capability to support a jump bridge, but often it's just a you know, impossibility to do so.
Someone linked a cool BR here of a fight in Delve where FRT got smacked around pretty good. I'm looking at right now. Lost 71 and we lost 15. That's very good.
https://zkillboard.com/related/30004710/202503151300/
What Brodog said? Yeah, basically our SOV upgrades will change over time. We are sadly just unable to take requests on upgrades. Yep, that is basically the situation.
Snipereagle1:
We will be keeping an eye on mineral market and prices and whatnot. And so like the what upgrades like what mining upgrades are where like that will shift over time as the market changes.
Asher Elias:
BP asks, AOL instant messenger or MSN messenger from back in the day? I mean, I had AOL. It felt like if you were American, you had, you had AIM. And if you're European, you had MSN. I remember meeting Euros and back then you would like, you know, swap your, your, you know, screen names or whatever, but they all had MSN and you all had, uh, you all had AOL if you were American. Yeah, I had a really low ICQ number. I don't remember it, but it was, it was quite low.
Beyondnoxx_UNP:
Uh, that's your IQ number, Asher.
Asher Elias:
Oh, thank you. That was pretty good.
By the way, guys, if you do want to have a question, please do not spread it out over multiple lines. It makes it a lot harder to, to read when there's a lot of people asking stuff.
Uh, Feral Valoran says, Asher, do you recommend to have a standard Rev for capital ops instead of RNI, or do you prefer to have all faction considering the price cuts and such? Yeah. So we haven't really looked fully into optimizing for price cuts right now. We're still recommending a Rev Navy, and I don't think that'll change, but we will be looking to see.
I think this opens the door for specialty and boutique dread plays, but probably not a change in our main strategy, but there will be options for using T1 dreads for more special place.
Snipereagle1:
Yeah, there's an immense amount of data that needs to be looked at for that.
Asher Elias:
Patrick says, Asher, have any Goonfleets tried out the new ore anomaly yet? Are we talking about the T3? Yeah, I feel like I've been talking about that the entire fireside, but we have 25 new ones of those. Yeah, so People have done that. I don't know if you mean it's people running a fleet to do them Because in that case, I don't know we've done an organized fleet. I know some people be doing like corp stuff So yeah, but we're seeing a lot of uptake on them.
Zorgar says, maybe we can have a HAW Dread, Home Defleet, Home Defense SIG. The problem is that the kind of doctrines people will bring to, you know, fight us will not be conducive to fighting HAW Dreads there, and they're not going to sit around on grid with you and let themselves die. So, as fun of an idea as that is, you would mostly just be going to a gate, sieging, and watching as they warp away. And also, let me just say, like, from experience, running a group like that, you're going to need a lot of tackle. And everyone wants to be the HAW dread. No one wants to be the tackle. So if you could get a situation where, you know, you have 15 people who are willing to fly dictors and five who are willing to fly HAW dreads, that would probably be viable, but the situation will probably be, you'll have 18 people who want to fly HAW dreads and one or two who want to fly the dictors so that, and that will be a lot less viable because they're just going to kill your one dictor and warp off and you might get one kill.
Yes, Sapphire, that would be a viable way if you want to do it.
Need Imperium Rugby team for tackling enthusiasts. That's pretty good, I like that.
Yeah, Kazin says, I'd be down for anything more formal organized in terms of home defense. Yeah, we, we launched the standing fleet. It was going well for a little bit, but then it kind of petered out, and I think we just need to find the right kind of leadership group who are going to pursue that, you know, on the daily, it's something that's going to need a little more organization. So we'll, we'll come back to that when we have a little time and try to try to restart it.
All right, friends. I think it's a good place to end. Thank you all for coming to the fireside. Thank you all for the 28 second repair cycle on our jump bridge. And I will see you all next week. Have a good one.
