Fireside Chat Transcript 2025 08 02

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Asher Elias:

Hello friends, how you doing? Do I pay the two? Not usually.



Apple Pear:

Everybody please log in your CAD alts after this fireside, we're going to do a move op from TCAG to G-M and then continue to ULAX through still stuck there. So please log in your CAD alts so you can help assist. Thank you very much.



Asher Elias:

Yes, we are learning the power of incursions in our new space, and yeah, I'm using my better mic 'cause my steel series headset's broke. My skull is too big. It always cracks the, the plastic on the material. I do try to pay the one, I get the reference. Both Ragnar, big brain and big ego.

Alright, I got a lot to talk about. Let's see, what should I talk about first? Apple Pear, reminder to say, remind people to get a carrier for their super pilot and a dread for their Titan pilot. And that's just good advice. If you had a super, have a carrier for that pilot as well. If you had a, Titan, have a dread for that pilot as well. Solid, solid advice.

I did have a story I wanted to share. A guy told me a story about his life and eve life, and unfortunately he's not here. I wanted to get his permission before I shared it, so we'll see. We'll see if I can get it next week.

Okay. I wanted to talk about, I've been doing some research this week. Last week I talked about my, my tanky, salvaging and non salvaging, Ishtar fits. I'm gonna link that thread again. There you go. That's the thread.

https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/371992-updated-salvage-ratting-ishtar-for-angels-tanky-ratter-ishtar/

So I've been running them this week and thank you Ryohei. I've had some very positive results. So my theory is that when someone comes in system and you dock up your ishtar because there's a one neut in system, you lose more isk than you would ever make from a fourth DDA and having a tanky fit. I think that they, you will never catch up on the isk that you lose from docking up for one roamer and running a 3 DDA tanky fit and losing a theoretical 25 DPS that doesn't even seem to affect your ticks is a negative move, isk wise and also makes you do more work. And so go ahead and click this.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/128838631/

There's a fellow that many of you may know, he saw my undefended, single Ishtar, and went for the easy kill and found out he was the easy kill. We also got, there was some help in system, but there's another one, I believe from the same night, by the way.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/128839029/

And, I think that guy is pretty infamous for flying around and shooting Ishtars as well. But I had him handled myself as well. Even if, Arakine hadn't showed up with a point. So my point here is that I strongly encourage you guys to consider running these 3 DDA Ishtars that are a lot tanker and don't rely on SIG tanking. If you look at that, Loki the guy was running, you know, he had webs on it. He was definitely out there to kill, ishtars that were SIG tanking because they're comically easy to kill if they aren't SIG tanking. Fit is in the thread. That was, a little further up there, Alexander. Scroll up and click that thread.

Speaking of Ishtars, our Scalding Pass ADMs kind of really suck. There actually aren't a lot of people out there hunting people, and if they are, it's probably a solo roamer. So it's like the perfect place to tank, to take these Ishtars. But basically what I have done this week is I have been having my Ishtar out and I have never left the system. You know, if 40 people come in, I just kept ratting just to see what would happen. And at no point, did any of those 40 people come and come for my Ishtar. And when a solo or a duo roamer would come in, I still stayed out. Like I saw Lord Road in there. And, I just sat there and eventually he showed up for me to kill him. And I've made a ton of ISK by doing that.

So, we need Scalding Pass', ADMs to go up. And so I would strongly encourage you guys, if you like ishtar ratting, grab one of these, throw it out there in scalding pass. Get yourself some PVP kills and some PVE money and lose essentially nothing because you didn't put a fourth DDA on there. You can also salvage, what I'm doing is I'm not salvaging on mine. I am, I just run the really tanky fit. I drop an MTU. I orbit the MTU. It gives me a nice orbit thing when I land. And then before I warp out, I open the MTU and I just grab the top, like six most expensive things and throw it in my Ishtar cargo hold. And after like three sites, I have to warp to a structure and cargo deposit. So I add approximately like 40 seconds to my time for three anomalies. And I get, you know, another 45 million maybe per three anomalies, maybe more than that. It's a lot of money. Especially with the HIC scripts or the HIC points. So, that's what I've been doing and I've been pulling in a ton of isk doing that. And like I said, not docking up, not worrying about Intel. Just doing it. And there's, I make so much isk that if I die, I just replace the ship and the cost is so minimal. Do you need a CPU implant? I'm doing the third fit bane so I'm doing the, the pointless script 'cause I'm pointless. Yeah. The third fit is the one, I've been doing. It's super tanky. It's really hard to kill and it has EM. If you'll notice that this guy was shooting, mjolnir hams at me. I died in one to a mjolnir ham Navy Caracal, and then I adjusted the fit. I'm like, Hmm. Time to optimize this. Third fit is the most recommended if you want just a super tanky fit. First fit is the one if you want to salvage.

Is Gobbins ratting? No, the guy doesn't even go on fleets much less rat. So. If you want an alliance leader that can answer a question that goes out and actually rats and also goes on fleets, then don't join Horde. That was easiest hit I've ever had to do.

Yeah, so I, I started making this fit because some of you guys asked for the salvaging fit, but then I just went into the super tanky ones because I wanted to sort of show that I think our behavior is suboptimal, because we've just sort of been conditioned to dock up whenever someone comes through. But you can run a fit that can solo fight almost any solo roaming ship. And, I did end up dying because they dropped blops on me. If they're gonna drop blops, then they're gonna drop blops and, and it's just sort of a cost of doing business. You will still make more by always staying out, in my opinion. And it's more fun. Like those kills were awesome to get.

So scalding pass, definitely head out there. We could definitely use an A DM boost and you can go in essentially any system has forsaken hubs. Just go hang out in a system that people don't use and run forsaken hubs, you'll never get competition. People really don't roam through there anyway, so you probably won't see any people one if they, but if they do go kill 'em.



Snipereagle1:

Feel free to go nuts with vexors, myrms, anything with the ADMs up, anything that kills rats. Right?



Apple Pear:

The reason you don't want havens and sanctums, with the ishtar is you can, with the hops, you can fully A FK, because you don't have dreads showing up or titans and such for killing your ship. So that's why running hubs is much better.



Asher Elias:

You can do a haven. Sometimes the second to last wave on a gate haven will push past the tank that you can spawn and then you've gotta flip on your ADC . Most of the ishtar fits I've been seeing, the people are running that are hyper optimized, don't have the ADC, which I think is a mistake for a couple reasons, but also for the combat, well here, let me just show you the picture. So I screenshotted that after that, Lord Road kill, that was my, and so you can see I've run my ADC, I was heating my repper and my multispec . And I've changed the fit since then. Now it has, an EM hardener as well. But, either way. You know, it was just very exciting. And, if you're running, you can do a Gate Haven. You just have to pay some attention or turn on an alarm so that you can hear when your shields get too low. And then you gotta flip on the ADC and, and handle things manually for a little bit. But what Apple said is like, yeah, if a dread spawned you can be in trouble. And then I'm mostly doing these, not hard AFK, like I'm at my pc, but I'm not looking at the EVE client. I just have an alert on like when that Lord Road guy showed up, I just. I just happened to be looking at my screen, but the other guy I killed, I wasn't looking at my screen. I just noticed that he was attacking me because my shield alarm went off and I tabbed back in. I said, oh, okay. And then I killed him. I was heating the shield repper, I just didn't get heat damage on it. You can look at my heat, stat in the hull and see that it was, it was relatively high up there.

Leshak doctrine? Yeah, I'll talk to Zintage about it. I'm not sure, he's working on it. We need to just finish it.

Yeah. The next revolution is take the fight. I am really on board there.

Yeah. Simone's talking about having a less EM resistance, but since that, since everything I've fought has been shooting EM at me, that's why I've gone with strong EM resistance because that's what people are trying to use to shoot ishtars.

When we'll change the Rokh fit from AB to MWD, please. We can use both. They're, it's in the cargo, so sometimes they're ab, sometimes they're MWD.



Snipereagle1:

That's the joke.



Asher Elias:

Ah, okay. Just bit down hard . All right. Ishtar talk. What else are we gotta talk about this week? I gotta talk about rocks too.

We're doing a cord recruitment drive that's gonna start pretty soon. Expect a thread up in the next few days. So if you're interested in herding fcs and actually being a part of helping this alliance..



Snipereagle1:

That was HERD, not HURT by the way.



Asher Elias:

It's a little bit of both.



Snipereagle1:

That's fair.



Asher Elias:

All right guys. I have, i'm gonna link you a clip and we're all gonna watch it together. I'm not gonna talk for the next minute or so. Everyone please click this and watch this clip from South Park.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzn8SaujsCM&t=27s

All right.



Snipereagle1:

Fucking I'll have you know. I fucking died when Asher linked this the other day.



Asher Elias:

There was a Reddit thread about this as well. I enjoyed the comment. My favorite comment was, there are no unwritten rules in the imperium. We are calling out cherry pickers. It is, I don't think it's a huge problem, but it's just something that some people are doing and it's, it causes a problem for everyone else.

Another thing that we are going to be implementing is that we have a tool, coming out that we'll be able to tell if people are doing anoms until they're almost finished and then quitting. And the reason people are doing this is because they want to control the anom respawning. Either they want someone else to flip them so they get a chance at the new one, or they want to be able to start a new anom and finish like the one they just left, almost dead so that they can control when the next one spawns. We're gonna have a tool coming out that will tell us that someone's doing that. We won't be coming and yelling at a person if they don't finish an anom. You know, your, your kid starts crying, you fall asleep, whatever. That's fine. But we will be able to tell if people are consistently leaving anoms unfinished. And so I just want you guys to know that, so that there's no surprise, when we start running the tool and then notice that, oh wait, this guy has done 30 different mining anoms and only two of them have been finished by him. That kind of behavior will be super easy to tell. So we won't be coming after you if you started an anom and don't finish it. That's not something we're gonna do, but we just, we are trying to make it so that everyone has access to as much mining as possible, and that means catching people and negatively incentivize this behavior.

Will we be blowing up your ship? Probably not. We'll probably just be letting your corp leadership handle it, because you're not only hurting everyone in the Imperium, you're also hurting the people in your corp who are probably the most likely to be in your system. So, whatever system you are mining in, your corp is more likely to be there. So don't disappoint your corp leadership. Don't screw everyone else over. Finish your anoms. And you know, if you're gonna go to sleep, go ahead and finish the one you're doing. Don't leave it at like 5%. We have been surveying the anoms that we've found a, an inordinate amount are left at 5% or less, which is, basically shows intention. So, that'll be, that tool will be debuting soon for us at a leadership level. And then we'll just be watching. We won't be like calling you up and saying, Hey, you didn't finish this anom, what was wrong? We'll just be watching for this behavior.

More ratting stuff. I did get a message from someone. I won't call them out, but they were just, interested. They were saying, Hey, you know, my alliance, is not doing beehive. You know, and I just like to make money doing crabs. And he was under the impression that, he was not allowed to join the beehive, because he was not in Goonswarm Federation. And I just wanna let everyone know, if you listen to this and you are in the imperium, you're able to join beehive. So anyone is allowed to do beehive. It's not a goonswarm only thing. So just let you, you know, let your buddies know if they wanna join, they're welcome to join. That's for everyone.

GSOL is doing a open recruiting drive. It'll be open for one month. GSOL is selective, but if you have applied before, please reapply now, if you are still interested, GSOL is a great way to help the alliance. GSOL people and myself are very different souls, but that is a good thing because it allow, it means that there are different people who can help the alliance in different ways. If I was in GSOL, the alliance would fail because I, it's not something I'm good at. So if, but if that is something you are good at. I'm thinking of a particular friend of mine right now who would be a great GSOLer, but wouldn't wanna do what I do. And, we'd love people to step up and help out the alliance if you want to donate your time and be useful and be a person that helps this alliance succeed, helps your friends do well, GSOL is a good way to do it.

https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/372526-sig-gsol-goonswarm-offensive-logistics-recruitment-open-limited-time/

Scouts, it's a good shout Ellie Mae. Scouts is a good way to join.

Okay. Um, you know how there's like, ideas that once you see them it, they're like super obvious. But someone had to think of that super obvious, super good idea. I wanted to shout out Greylock who came up with the idea to name beacons, the beehive status. If you notice, the beacon might be named like super beehive, beehive. If it's outside of Beehive range, it'll be just named Upwell Loss Generator. That was such a smart idea. I loved that when I saw it and it's so simple, but once you see it, but you know, he was the one who thought of it, so shout out to Greylok for coming up with a great idea. He seems like a pretty smart guy, so, don't prove us wrong.

Can we talk about MTG instead? You can ask questions if you want, once we do questions and answers, but I'm not gonna put it into the agenda.

We have a Merc Den Sig Sniper. Can you talk just a little bit about what this is for people?



Snipereagle1:

Yes. Yeah, so we changed the Merc Den policy. It was an ungodly amount of admin on like GSOL and people in Kremlin for our past space. So the way that we are doing this now, and this is in the policy thread, people can have three Merc Dens per forum account. You get automatically added to a SIG. There is a Jabber channel along with that SIG that you will get invited to if you missed the like invite. It's anarchists@conference.goonfleet.com. I'll go update the post with that 'cause I haven't done that. But, yeah. So what we need you guys to do, is if you have a Merc Den, then you need to join that. If you have anarchy, that's where you'll get pinged about it. Right now there are like three people in the channel with me, and, oh, now it's five. Fantastic. Thank you already. But yeah, we just, we need to make sure that we're managing our Merc Dens so that we don't have our upgrades turned off. So thank you in advance for your help with that.



Asher Elias:

All right, cool. Appreciate that Sniper.

Um, we've got a lot of talk this week about, mining, ratting. It's all sort of Delve is healing kind of stuff, which is good.

Someone asked about structures in beehive space, you know, forts. Eventually those will go down. We don't have structures in every system yet. You know, there's a goal we want to get, but it's something that takes a while. So, be patient on there. We're gonna try and drop more Astras in systems that don't have them, for instance. Okay. And I think that's pretty much everything I wanted to talk to you about on my agenda.

Oh yeah. One more thing that wasn't there but I wanted to mention was, Incursions. We had what, A third incursion spawn, is that correct? I know we had two spawn, almost back to back. And then there was one right before that. So. Incursions are a great way to make money, from everything I've heard. Incursion Sig is just totally, you know, storming right now and making a ton of ISK and, incursions are way better than they ever were in Delve where sometimes it we'd go months between having one spawn. Here, it's just overwhelming riches, right. So, if you're interested in doing incursions, it's sort of, you know, you can do group ratting, you can hang out with people. I think incursions can be really fun. So that's a good way to do it and make some ISK, it can make a lot of ISK really.

Okay. I am open for questions.

The first one is about magic. Jeskai Simulacrum Synthesizer OP in standard? No, it's not op in standard. I've been playing some new decks. Actually, i'm gonna stream arena after this fireside. I have a really fun new deck I brewed.

So what do we got here question wise? Moons. Yeah. To head that off at the pass. That should be tomorrow for your corporate leadership. They will get moons. We are very aware of it.

When we have our next PI stream? It's not on the schedule Ryohei. I just, doesn't speak to my soul.



Snipereagle1:

Ooh. Shameless plug.



Asher Elias:

Yeah, go ahead.



Snipereagle1:

If somebody can link my planetsin.space thread, if you just find a post by me, it's in my forum sig. But I have a, I have a tool that I build, that gives you reminders on your extraction planets. There'll be factory reminders at some point in the future once I get to it. I also added template sharing. So if you are a person that is very good at laying out PI planets, you can upload your templates and then link them to your friends and they can use them. It gives you a preview of what it looks like and what throughput and requirements are and whatnot. So let's, let's get more pi up and going in our space. And that's a real easy way for, you to help people.

https://planetsin.space



Asher Elias:

Shout out to that tool. It's a cool thing.

Do cherry picking rules apply to relic and data sites? There is a good reason to finish them. It's that they spawn, or they can spawn a, escalation right to when you finish them. I'm trying to remember if that's, I think that's correct.



Apple Pear:

Yeah.



Asher Elias:

Yeah. You should just finish the sites. We, I don't know that this is a rule jungle meat, but you, if you're doing it, you should be doing it. You should be finishing them. And we can't really control when people come through our space and run them and leave 'em open, you know? But just finish your sites. Yes. It also respawns them, and they, they're spawning so fast in scalding that you want to finish them.



Apple Pear:

And also if you come in to one that has two cans, just fail the two cans and you get the chance that you get escalation out of it and you finish the site. You don't have to do all the hacking yourself. So like, I wouldn't be too fussed about cherry picked, escalation site because of a explo site, because you get the escalation faster that way.



Asher Elias:

Yeah. Like you should finish them. Even if you come across a cherry picked one, you should finish it. Read what Ryohei said. It's a good shout.

Tariel says, what's your opinion on the combo Deadpool shadow of the hedgehog and the master multiplied? I think it's funny that those are all actual magic cards, even though none of those come from Magic the Gathering. And it's a cool commander deck that I would never wanna play.

Unfortunately explo goods are dropping in value because of it. I mean, that's a good thing overall.

Someone asked in, mumble, please ask in Elysium on Jabber, but it was about if the GEZ map is current, I think so.

Weather report across the regional, is that like asking about fighting across the regional? What's the question there Cas?

Moons are gonna be talked about your corp tomorrow at the Kremlin meeting.



Snipereagle1:

I love watching people from Kremlin ask Kremlin questions on the fireside. It's very entertaining.



Asher Elias:

What about Jump Beacon access Titan Swarm for not GSF numbers? Yeah, that's, the Beacon Swarm is through, for GSF members and I, I think that's how it works unfortunately because of ACL stuff.

Someone asked, is it better to get a dread or a super for running a beacon? So a super will make you more money. But I think essentially, it's almost always better to do a dread just for reasons of if you DC or any number of reasons. Like a dread is losable, losing a super sucks, losing a dread, you can replace it very fast. A krabqual is obviously the best. Two dreads are obviously really good, but, yeah, I'm a big fan of krabquals. You guys can see me out in C-J sometimes running my krabquals . But, I would personally recommend a dread, like, yes, your isk per hour is going to be higher in a super, but you have to pay for the super first before you start making isk. And you can pay for the dread in a couple days. It takes months to pay off the super and you are risking it every time. So for me, the dread makes a lot more sense from a, you know, investment to return ratio.

Yes, and you can Lending Bee to get yourself a new dread.

Yeah, just use a faction super.

What if you have many supers? Yeah, London towers. If you have many supers and you want to do it in a super you can. I'm not saying don't do that, but if you're talking about investing for the purposes of doing that, I would get the dread and then use the dread to buy a super that you have for super fleets rather, and I would just keep doing the dread. That's how I would do it.

Casadorr says versus 15% increase in isk generation for a thousand percent increase in cost. Yeah, that sounds about right. Like this is sort of coming back to the four DDA ishtar thing where you run a totally gimped fit to get what is essentially no more isk in a tick like a fourth DDA maybe gets you like 200,000 extra a tick maybe. I don't think. I think even that's probably inaccurate and you just take out so much opportunity to do that. It's what I was, you know, I was going on about this with the ishtars a few minutes ago. It's the same sort of thing where I would just not. I just don't think it's worth it. People don't consider that part of it enough, in my opinion.

For the, for the Perma war, what do you recommend to train? You know, battleships are the meta right now, so I would get Caldari battleship. That'll get you a Rokh. A Raven Navy, obviously it's two different weapon systems, but get yourself up, caldari battleship, then start training the gun systems for those. So gun and missiles, that's sort of the easiest train right now. And then, getting yourself into T2 logi means that you can fly in essentially every fleet. So that's what I recommend. When I was first coming up, I did T2 logi first so I can get a scimitar and guardian. Those were the flavors of the time. And then, I would go into battleships after that. I also think logi, so logi is sort of paradoxical. In a big fight, logi is more fun. Like I do realize that pressing F1 and watching the ship disappear is exciting. But there, there's very little skill expression in it. I know people like it 'cause we always have more DPS than logi. People like that more. And I will say that like when a fight doesn't happen, at least you can F1 on a structure and logi theoretically can't do that. I have always not listened to whatever an FC said, and I've put like combat drones in my logi so sometimes I'll just drop a sentry 'cause you can carry one sentry and I'll shoot the astrahus or whatever with my logi, but once in actual fights, I think logi is way more fun. Like logi is sort of more like FCing where, this is probably a weird experience for some of you, but you get to the end of a fight and you find out that you're just like really sweaty because you were, your brain was going so hard. That's like an FC experience, but it could also be a logi experience. Like you could be out of breath at the end of a fight. I know. Or you could be a goon and walk 10 feet and be out of breath. But either way, I think logi can be really fun in a big fight.

Logi controls who lives and dies for those with power trips. There's another selling point.



Apple Pear:

I have told FCS that if they want were to go to certain moons to shoot them, that I would just warp the, told the logic wing to warp off because we wouldn't be there because it was just a pain in the ass. So, yeah. That sometimes happens.



Asher Elias:

Yeah, Casadorr says getting a kill mail on someone is significantly less satisfying than saving someone in 10% Hull. I totally agree. I do really wish there was some sort of recorded achievement for logi, like logi on kill mails or like a save mail or something where you grab someone saving them a hull, something like that where they have a memento. I think that's a big part of the problem and getting people into logi is that you don't have a memento from the fight. So I do wish that did happen because it is a better appealing, in my opinion, but I am also someone who likes to have mementos. Like I save all my movie tickets and I have 'em in like a little box that I keep 'cause I like mementos.

Did you just nerd me?



Snipereagle1:

Nerd.



Asher Elias:

Dude, I'm kicking you all from the Alliance. What you doing? I'm a powerful dictator, not a nerd.

Oh, pyromac said, do you collect frozen corpses and, I don't normally, but I did recently acquire a Molok and it has nothing in the corpse bay, so I will be getting one of those, tractors, those mtus that tractor corpses maybe after the next fireside, and I'll just drop it outside the Keepstar and ask you for your corpses to power my ship.

What does the corpse bay do? It stores corpses. Please do not contract me your corpses. I wanna get it from the tractor. Unless you have an awesome one. I'll take an awesome one to throw in there. I love this game.



Snipereagle1:

Oh, two other things we should have hit earlier 'cause probably half people have left, but, if you have an alt corp and you're interested in industry structures, please get your requests in. There's a thread in home ec of what systems are available to request.

And then my other thing was gonna be that we're hitting SOV three in the majority of our space within the next few days. So you're gonna see that ansi map light up very soon, which I know everybody's excited about.



Asher Elias:

Yeah, we've already started flipping on some of the ansis and we'll be getting even more real soon, which is really nice because it was, you know, walking around space a peasant has been so annoying.

Gobbins corpse is a cool one to have. Yeah.

Capital training. Do you recommend a dread, a carrier or a super? This is a super easy question, Sam. A dread first, a carrier second, and then a super. But yeah, and then you do the same thing for your alts. You do dread, carrier, then super and or titan on your alts in the same way.



Apple Pear:

You should never put your capital on your main, just do it on an alt.



Asher Elias:

Yes, oh yeah, yeah, that's a great point. If you're, if you're talking about your main, then you just don't do capitals. Like my main character, Asher Elias, the, literally, the only cap it can fly is a Hubis and that's for the memes. I cannot sit him in any, in any capital because there's no reason. I want, I want my main in a subcap, and then I have alts, many, many, many alts, in that can fly capitals for when a capital escalation happens.



Snipereagle1:

Yeah, and obviously having alts that can do the sub caps is fine as well.



Asher Elias:

Yeah, for sure. It leads you to these weird situations when you want to have your main in a dread, where you sit around and try to guess if this is gonna be the dread fight, and then you skip out on a subcap fight and then the dread fight doesn't happen and then you feel bad because you missed a really good fight. It's just terrible. Just don't do it. Train alts in the caps, and then put your main in subs.

Yeah, Conrad said that you can suitcase on your main if you have caps on your main, which I guess I can do now. But yeah, I just, it is, I am in a weird situation now with my main character and that literally the only skills I have left are a couple weapons specs fives. I don't have anything else to train. I plan to get a dread on my cyno alt. Yeah, why not?

PI, Tombstone? Yeah, we need a ton of pi. Please do more pi. It's so much easier. Sniper already pimped his tool . It's, really good.



Snipereagle1:

I'm also working on personally building out a bunch of, a bunch of very low effort templates for doing single planet P2s. That was it. Go ahead, Asher.



Asher Elias:

Yeah. Cool. Are we still doing moves from UALX to C-J? Yeah, we did one last weekend and we will keep doing them. They're just gonna be in lower frequencies, but we will still..



Snipereagle1:

There will be a fleet pinged out right after the fire side.



Apple Pear:

Yes. We're doing a move op. Yeah, right now, from TCAG to G-M And then I think we have also a cyno fleet too UALX from there. So, yeah. Yeah. Let's get ready. I think that's a nice..



Asher Elias:

So I'll do like, yeah, I'll do like five more minutes of questions. So we got five minutes before we're gonna do that fleet.

Is Cache gonna be a buffer zone? I don't think we're gonna make any commitments on Cache. You might see people move in there. It might be a buffer zone, it might be a floodplain. Who knows?

What about Irmalin? So Irmalin is a real pain, Diddy. I don't think we can count on any regularly scheduled stuff. I think if you can move stuff out of there, via selling or whatever, that's fine. We will probably eventually do one or two, maybe a year, is sort of the idea I'm thinking of right now.

Yes. Kazanir mentioned it does have a jump freghter route.



Snipereagle1:

Where are CAD Alts meant to be stationed? CAD Alts are currently staged in TCAG so that when we do these gate crossings to get people's caps that we're able to get to there, but haven't been able to get further, we can just log in a fleet and go.



Asher Elias:

There you go.



Snipereagle1:

So that's where they are for now. They might move down the line, but future plans. There you go, somebody just got a bingo.



Asher Elias:

There you go.

Is there a better way to sell P4 than the open market? I don't know. Can anyone else answer that question? Because I don't know the answer to that. GSOL Buyback, someone mentions Karmafleet has a buyback. Yeah, I think buyback is probably the way to do it. Yeah. That's the other thing is if you have a friend who builds, you can go ahead and just send it to them. I did that a long time with dark ochre. Yeah. We should see the PI market at C-J pickup, and I think it should be really easy now with the tools that we've added, it was much easier than before.



Apple Pear:

Ragnar, that's because you didn't mine in isotopes.



Asher Elias:

Alright, friends, I think that wraps it up as far as questions go. And we are gonna be moving right now. So hop on your alts and go over there. I will see you all later. Have a great week. Been fun talking.