Fireside Chat Transcript 2025 11 01
Ranger Gama:
Okay, so I did forget the most important phrase on that ping. Touche to Zintage on that one.
Zintage Enaka:
Yes, he did.
Ranger Gama:
That's fair. Well, I mean, that's what happens when the time changes. So fact that hasn't changed yet doesn't matter. Stupid time change. Yeah, that's, that's true. I got brow beat into teaching one by Aoife, that's a terrible person that he is. Wow, that's Coldblooded there Sniper that is Coldblooded. Let's see if our numbers are stabilized. Looks like they have.
Snipereagle1:
Somebody's gotta keep you honest.
Ranger Gama:
Okay, we got a couple things. We're gonna do the CSM stuff at the end because Kaz wants to wax poetic about it, and you guys know how Kaz is. So we'll do a couple other things, then we'll turn it over to Kaz.
So. First thing, we are going to be moving your CAD alt. So they are hopefully in TCAG right now. We are going to be moving them, so keep an eye out for pings for that. We're gonna be shifting them up closer to us. So we are going to be doing some move ops on those over the next couple of weeks here. But not a massive thing. You guys don't need to do that like right now. Please just wait for the ping on that. So we'll be doing some of those out of TCAG to get your CAD alts back closer to home for it.
For SIGs and squads. SIGs and squads are recruiting. We always wanna make sure that we're getting you guys into doing all those kind of pieces for all the SIGs and squads that we have out. One thing that I do wanna remind everybody of, just like the directorate and all the other leadership for Corps, SIGs and squads are run by volunteers. They are going to process stuff as they get to it. If you've gotta wait just a little bit, well, that's just the way it is, guys, right? Everybody's got their real life to it. So, you know, don't be a dick to the SIGs and squad leaders. So that's probably blunter than what I was told to say, but whatever.
Zintage has a very special request for dreads, and dreads and more dreads. And he would also like to remind everybody that if you've got a super carrier pilot, get a regular carrier for that same alt. If you're in a super, you can fly a regular carrier of whatever that race is. So make sure you get a regular carrier to go along with your super carrier pilot.
Snipereagle1:
And we'll throw a caveat in there with, they're supposedly getting cheaper with the patch in a couple weeks. So plan on getting one, but don't run out and buy one right now.
Ranger Gama:
Good call. Do not goon rush them right now in, patch is in 16 days. Is that right? What's? What's patch day? It's coming up two or three weeks.
Snipereagle1:
18th, I think.
Ranger Gama:
Is it the 18th? Okay, so 20 days, 17 days. 17 days. Yeah.
Zintage Enaka:
Let's be real. You guys are going to, as soon as the patch hits, goon rush it, and they're gonna end up the same price as they are now. Just because so many of you guys are buying.
Kazanir:
It happens every fucking time.
Zintage Enaka:
Every time.
Ranger Gama:
It's true. No matter how many times we say it, you know the market's gonna be gooned and rushed. So if you guys who are completely going to ignore us will actually wait, let's say two weeks. You might not pay as much. Well jokes on you. Still have my Archon from 2012, is it large rigged if it's not, go away dude.
Snipereagle1:
2012 is well after capital rigs came in Ranger.
Ranger Gama:
Yeah. That doesn't mean that he bought it then He said he got it then. Doesn't mean.
Kazanir:
Wait. It's, I thought those were in 2013 or 14.
Ranger Gama:
No. I thought they were earlier now. I thought they were like 2011 or something.
Kazanir:
I thought tiericide started in 13, but I could be wrong.
Ranger Gama:
Eh, whatever. If they're not large rigged, you know, William, your, your, your boast is less impressive. Let, let's just put it that way 'cause I'm just a terrible dick for that. You said everyone wants to talk with everyone. Okay. Well, but not you. I mean, we don't wanna talk to you, you know. It's just a weirdo like that. You're, you're the one thumb, right? If Snipers gonna call me out for my lack of toes, I'm gonna call you out for lack of thumbs because why not?
Snipereagle1:
One quick question from chat. People were asking about like, what if my CAD alt is still floating in space in E3? 'Cause I never moved it from there. Honestly, just try to get it to TCAG and you'll probably be successful. It's not super busy between those two places. So.
Zintage Enaka:
Worst case, you die.
Kazanir:
Right? Yeah. And honestly, it's been long enough since we introduced CAD. You might have a new free death clone set possible if you really need that, but it's not that hard to get to TCAG in a pod, so.
Ranger Gama:
Okay. Yep. So the new location, the temporary new location, if you're in E3OI, or anywhere in Delve with your CAD alt is TCAG. And then we're gonna be moving them to, over the next couple of weeks, we're gonna move them. So just keep an eye on that.
Zintage Enaka:
You just tell them where Ranger.
Ranger Gama:
Alright. I wasn't sure how quite.
Snipereagle1:
I thought we already did like we're moving them. We're moving them to UALX. If you have it in Delve somewhere, get to TCAG.
Zintage Enaka:
It'll be move ops from TCA to UALX.
Ranger Gama:
Next thing on our agenda is just for KAZ to wax poetic about the CSM. And then we'll do a question time there guys.
Kazanir:
Do, do a few questions first. 'cause I, you need to kill a couple more minutes as I finish voting exactly as the state instructed me. I'm a couple accounts away.
Ranger Gama:
All right. Excellent. So we'll do question time and then we'll have wax poetic time and then we may end with more questions. So questions for it? Lemme see.
UALX super secret location for CAD. That's where we are moving them to from TCAG.
Zintage Enaka:
The guy asked about fighter load outs. Once every these carrier changes come through that they announce, we'll look at re-doing all our carrier supers and normal, et cetera. There's a lot of work to do on our old cap fits.
Ranger Gama:
So updates, TBD on those.
The thoughts of the current fight between Init and FRT. Init's losing a lot of hulls, man. We were talking about that at space meeting, so, yep. They're paying the iron price for that fort.
Zintage Enaka:
They're up to 310 bill over a single fort.
Apple Pear:
I said, like I said, in an other place, it's always nice to have our neutrals and enemies lose stuff.
Ranger Gama:
Yeah, they're definitely paying a lot for this fort.
So if you guys have the weekend fleet pack that was just linked by Doomlord, that one's in there. If you're interested in that. It's a pretty cheap one.
https://store.eveonline.com/product/weekend-fleet-pack/verm-6203
Stream of pi set up. You know, we need to get Asher to do that again. He did one of those like three years ago, two years ago, something like that. We'll beat Asher. That should be his penance for, you know, taking his time out for hand egg ball rather than being here with you guys. There is a PI class that got put up on the calendar. It's coming up in a couple of days. I don't remember what day it is. I did see it on the op calendar, so there is one coming up.
So what's a hand egg ball? It's American football. I call it hand egg ball just to annoy Asher.
Kazanir:
Correct name Is Gridiron Football. One of the three flavors of football. They're all football.
Ranger Gama:
He doesn't like it when I say that Kaz. So that's like I do it with stuff and things because it annoys Asher. You know, you can't take this away from me, man.
Kazanir:
Gal check is correctly, gay rugby is also acceptable. Hi Reddit.
Angry Mustache:
That seems very redundant.
Ranger Gama:
I don't even know what to say to that one. I agree.
So is there any plans that add the chimera to the capital to..
Zintage Enaka:
No.
Ranger Gama:
To the carrier doctrine. Zintage says no.
Apple Pear:
I was hoping the event became good with all the changes.
Ranger Gama:
I was like, yeah, I mean, Chimera works just fine if you want to suitcase stuff with it. I mean, the carrier, you stuff throw stuff into the SMA.
Kazanir:
If you're super committed, train boost skills, right? We do fly boosters, Chimeras, right?
Zintage Enaka:
Look.
Kazanir:
If you, if you're a Caldari RPer that space does exist even though it's very small.
Zintage Enaka:
Otherwise all it's is a different carrier skill book.
Ranger Gama:
Yeah.
Zintage Enaka:
That's all you need.
Ranger Gama:
That's fair. Yeah. Alright, Kaz, I killed four minutes. Are you done voting exactly as the state has directed you to.
Kazanir:
I'm so close.
Snipereagle1:
There's a bunch of PI questions so I can shill my app that I already linked. So Durand asked, there was a PI template thing we talked about, is there a link to that? And I dropped a link to Planets in Space, which has a template library and you can find templates that'll work for you. And then, uh, download them. Also, if you've made your own, this isn't just like Sniper says, this is how to do your pi, this is a, hey, share your templates with other people. So if you've like, made planet setups that you like, please contribute them. The app does a bunch of other things too. And I'm working on some cool new stuff as well. Sanso, that was a cat.
https://planetsin.space/templates
Ranger Gama:
Uh, so how many Molok BPCs did you pull from the event? None, because I don't undock, so I haven't done any of the event.
Well, almost got a bingo. What you missing, man? So we can make sure to not give you that bingo square dude.
Snipereagle1:
There you go guys. I paid the cat tax in Elysium.
Ranger Gama:
I don't know. That link looks pretty sus to me.
Snipereagle1:
Well, it's not an imgur link so the euro's can open it.
Ranger Gama:
Sorry. That's fair enough to him.
Snipereagle1:
It is orange and it fits all the stereotypes that come along with an orange cat.
Ranger Gama:
As Zintage just said, in Elysium in there, if you are interested on the fight there, somebody was linking videos and everything like that, Init's losing a couple of AHACs, you know, five, 10 of them a minute or something like that. It's, they're paying a huge price for this Fort, if you guys care and wanna see that.
Zintage Enaka:
So far, 444 zealots have died from this Fort.
Beyondnoxx UNP:
I have sold 288 in Jita.
Ranger Gama:
I was like, there you go. Beyond supplying the zealot market for this. Yep. A couple times they were using Ravens. The Ravens, what, what's the polite way of saying this Zintage? They fell off a truck.
Zintage Enaka:
They, they got beamed.
Ranger Gama:
Beamed. They were beamed into constituent components. How about that?
Zintage Enaka:
Everyone who's been here for, you know, the past two years. You know what it's like to get dreads dropped on your battleships. Init got dreads dropped on their battleships and were rapidly disassembled.
Kazanir:
They stopped bringing more battleships. Now they're bringing things that are worse than battleships and it's going about as expected.
Ranger Gama:
I guess you could say. They are very zealous. All right, Zorger, you're fired but I like that. That's a good one.
Snipereagle1:
I like this, this YouTube short that Brett Power, while people are waiting for Kaz to very slowly vote for CSM.
Kazanir:
I did. I voted.
Ranger Gama:
Oh yeah. That, that one, that sniper just, I pinged that out the other day.
That is so good. It super good. It's a good one. Yeah. So Bane, I'll take this and then we'll turn it over to Kaz for CSM stuff.
Burn jita when? CCP you fucked that. So the ganking cannot be done. I know people have a, you know, love hate relationship with Burn Jita. I always loved it. I know some of the people here hated it, but it can't be done right now. The mechanics just aren't there.
And with that, we're gonna turn it over to Kaz who has finally voted as the state directed to talk to us about the CSM.
Kazanir:
Does the candidate not have to go first? Hey, you said you wanted to do it so it's all for you.
Zintage Enaka:
I was gonna say, you said you wanted to do it. That's why we waited there.
Kazanir:
I said I was still started. It's true. Yeah. I did wanna talk to everybody. Hi, everyone. So, as you know, a long time ago, three years ago if you were playing, you might remember that people were all pretty upset about the state of EVE. It was a year since the war had ended. There was a sort of general malaise, numbers were in the toilet that summer. I think the PCU dipped to like 16, 17 k pretty regular. Sniper says, rightfully so. It was fucking terrible. Correct. So in the wake of that, CSM 17 was elected and then subsequently, as you know, Mittens got his ass canceled and or resigned quietly. There was a peaceful transition of power. Pick what story you want. Yeah. And that was not very long after, after CSM 17's term started.
So what we discovered was really interesting. CCP, of course, they were, you know, they're not oblivious. They could see that the player numbers were not good. And they were practically eager to develop a better relationship with the incoming CSM, where, just a ton of people had rotated off for term limit reasons. You know, they had just spent a couple years doing scarcity. They had seen that just a ton of backlash to that, and all of a sudden the numbers had tanked because the pandemic was over. And so I actually have been relatively blessed to have a pretty good relationship with them because they, you know, were not hostile to us because the situation was not like that. And we were lucky to elect a CSM that was also not overly hostile to each other, and were not that difficult to work with.
So things have honestly been shockingly good. I've been in this alliance a long time, joined up in 2010. And have been around for pretty much all the years of our bad relationship with CCP. That's not true. Only half of them, right? I was away for several years, but I remember the bad relationship years very well. And the years of people complaining and talking about how useless the CSM is in multiple respect, and that has just not been my experience. A lot has gone wrong. Also, someone asked me on a show a few weeks ago, you know, has there ever been anything where you told CCP something and then they came back and there was clearly something that you had influenced and you were upset because they like, it was bad, right? I said, well, yeah, of course. For me, that was the whole Equinox expansion. That's obviously partially tongue in cheek, but you know, not all of the past three years has been totally amazing, right?
There have been ups and downs, but by and large, I would say that the CSM is probably at its most functional now. That, out of what I have seen of EVE's history, which personally is about 10 years out of the 20, that is not to say everything is as peaches and roses or whatever the hell, right? We argue a lot and the CSMs role in preventing them from doing things that everyone truly would hate is very important. So that's not going away. But I wanted to just talk about this because there is a lot of very justified, like I remember all those years of us being totally at loggerheads with CCP for just any of a litany of reasons and that just does not seem to be the case in my experience these last few years with them in spite of when things have been bad for in particular round of talks.
Yes, right. People are quoting some of these like the no scions rule and of course we also committed our own sins. We sent Xenuria to the CSM. On, on and on. So I am just delighted that that does not seem to be a factor in how things are going. As you know, I spent a couple years working to make clear that there are certain mechanical things that we are not interested in taking advantage of, but that they should be doing with SOV, to bring back the play styles of our former enemies. People like Pandemic Legion or Band of Brothers. They used to have other mechanical advantages in terms of building out other play styles for the long-term health of the game. That is also not done and so I'm sort of sad to be term limited out with that at a, in the state it is in, right. They're not done with that quest. There's a lot more to do.
We'll see if they actually accomplish any of that, but it was cool to be able to talk to them and I've obviously been very honored to have all of you vote exactly as the state tells you to with my name at the top of the ballot. So thank you all for that. It was totally bomb. I would never do it again, I pray. But it was awesome. Thank you guys. Bueller?
Zintage Enaka:
I was gonna say dead air. Okay.
Kazanir:
You're up buddy now. Yes. Right. So Zintage ascends, a sith master. Hyper is the new sith apprentice, always two there are, one to embody power, the other to crave it. Plus we have a backup former sith master running, an Angry Mustache. Former apprentice, I guess.
Zintage Enaka:
Rule of two very well, but correct. So basically what Kaz said kind of got iffy on the years there, but basically last year was my first year that CSM 19. I've heard a lot of horror stories about the CSM. I've heard them. I then learned a lot of them were true. I can't say the same about CSM 19.
CSM 19. We were very smooth. We did have our fights, but I'd say we came at a very united front and we started getting a lot of stuff done, or at least started. There's a lot to keep doing. We've started seeing capitals be able to be used again. Big things like titans now can kill dreadnoughts again. Supers are much tanker, et cetera. Carriers don't really have their place yet. We need to still fix that. Equinox is starting to look usable from what it was, and there's a lot of stuff that we've started that we need to keep going, and we're trying to rebuild the consensus that we had with CSM 19 into CSM 20.
And that's the biggest thing. If we can get people that we can work with onto the CSM, we can keep getting these things done. A lot of this was a good example is when we went to the CSM Summit every night before that next day, we had our own meeting at the hotel for several hours where we went over stuff and made a consensus to go to CCP with before actually getting into the room with them. It's that kind of stuff that gets CCP to work with us. 'cause if you just walk into that room and you start arguing about where we think stuff should go, it's not gonna go anywhere. Otherwise, I think that's my spiel.
Ranger Gama:
All right. Let's, I'll back up for more questions there. More questions on like, just general Eve stuff or specifically for the CSM? Since we have our outgoing sith master, our current sith master are kind of in the background sith master, which is totally not creepy that he's standing in the corner. You know, Hyper is the sith apprentice. He stands between the current sith master and the creepy behind the scenes in the corner sith master. So you know, he is the guy in the middle. That's his problem.
Hyperviper1:
I get a cool light saber, at least.
Ranger Gama:
Yeah, I know. I'm just gonna let that one go. This has already been clipped far enough so.
Zintage Enaka:
Hyper. We forgot to tell you. You only get the rubber one to start with.
Hyperviper1:
Damn. I thought it looked different.
Ranger Gama:
Wow. All right. That's, that's something a Hey, Reddit moment. Jesus. Oh no, that was good. Baschti between the master and the resurrected corpse in the corner. I'm not sure that's a very polite way of describing Angry, but I like it.
Kazanir:
That is a great thread title. I had not seen it before. I'm impressed.
https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/375377-csm-20-continuing-the-great-work/
Zintage Enaka:
Oh, the CSM thread.
Kazanir:
Yeah. I love that.
Zintage Enaka:
I thought you might like that. I did it for you.
Kazanir:
Very nice. Thank you.
Ranger Gama:
Wow. Look at that. Showing off to the previous master. I see how it is. I gotta remember that one. That's a good one.
I'll say, i'm not reading that, man. That's a good one, but I'm not saying that out loud.
All right. Any other questions or anything like that? Or will. We'll call the day there. That's an interesting question for you guys. How far behind do the changes usually lag? So like an idea to a dev to the live, can you give us a rough thing on like what the turnaround time is on something like that?
Zintage Enaka:
It really depends on the size of it. If it's something small, it could be done in two weeks. If it's something big, could be six months.
Kazanir:
Or two and a half years.
Zintage Enaka:
Or two and a half years.
Kazanir:
Yeah. You gotta notice we still don have like, ESI stuff for Equinox is still not completely done, for example, and that just is upsetting, right? But just a few things are always gonna go that way, and that just happens to be that one, right? So you just, you can't fix everything.
Snipereagle1:
Kaz said, right? So drink. There was actually an interesting YouTube video a while back, and it came out during the Vanguard event, and it mentioned Vanguard in the title, so I like kind of passed over it. It was on the CCP channel, but it was Okami talking about like what their, like, what their process looks like and how they kind of plan things for release. So if that, if that sounds like something interesting to you, like whoever asks the, like how long does it take? It's probably an interesting watch for you. It's like an hour long. It's not like it's, it's basically just like a video content of it isn't super interesting. It's like, could be audio, but people just put things on YouTube anymore. But yeah, it was an interesting, you know, how they look at like, what's an expansion, what's a major update? When do things tend to, thanks Lana. Lana linked it if you're interested, but yeah, it was an interesting kind of view into like what their timeline and kind of how their roadmap works and how they look at things and when things get added to the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zo7ZQPpCQE
Zintage Enaka:
To the guy who asked about if we're responsible for Vanguard? Not really. No.
Ranger Gama:
So there's one question then one piece that shout out to all the guys who are doing stuff for Locust. So the beehive guys who were there doing all the coordinating, right? Plus the beehive guys were there actually defending it. Doing all those fleets. We had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of you guys out for Beehive. We got a, sorry for Locust. We got an update on it. I believe the number was like 700 exhumers out there doing this stuff today. Crazy numbers. So that was a great one.
Question for you guys on thoughts on the new mining anoms of the test server. I honestly didn't get in and play with them, so I don't have any firsthand on that. I believe that you did. Do you have any thoughts to share with everybody on the new mining stuff as of now?
Snipereagle1:
Yeah, I can talk about it just a little bit. So they're new belts that are roaming spawns. They have to be scanned down. Once they get to their like final, like last 20%, they pop up on the map. And I think there's a beacon in system.
Angry Mustache:
Not 20% that it pops up a certain time after someone scans it. So the last 40 hours show up on a map.
Snipereagle1:
So these are, these are huge, right? They're like almost a thousand kilometers across and there's some normal rocks, and then there's the new prismaticite, which is an ore that's like, it can randomly refine into different minerals. You can also do reactions that, based on what was on the test server doesn't seem like it's great, but we'll see how that comes to live. It was definitely like a pretty rough test and they just wanted to like get people interacting with it. It looks super cool. Like there's a line that goes through the entire anomaly and there's like a bubble that moves along that, that like activates the prismaticite rocks when it's inside of it. And then there's like a new anchorable that has to be linked to a mining boosting ship that like enables the prismaticite. And then it like cycles off onto a cool down, but you can anchor multiple of them. So yeah, we'll see how that works. There's some other mining changes as well. There's like new skills coming that are like for anybody that plays like RPGs or ARPGs or anything, they're basically adding crit chance and crit damage to mining. And so that will just like be a like buff to all mining ships where you'll get more. Yeah, wrecking shots on the asteroid. Exactly. Where you'll get new stuff. Or not new, not new stuff. So basically like you'll just get a, like extra yield that doesn't pull out of the rock. And then the, they're changing how like the survey scanner is working. It turns into a passive module that boosts and of like innate ability on a barge. And they also give a boost to the, like the crit chance and the crit damage for mining. So you're basically always gonna have whatever they're renaming a survey scanner to on your ships. Those sites are huge. So like there's, if we talk in moon value, I think a max frack of a moon is like 35 to 40 million M3. Somewhere in that ballpark. There are multiple moons worth of M3, of just the prismatacite in these sites. So there's a lot of it. As it stands right now, they're probably gonna be handled pretty similar to how we do the, you know, the mining escalations where it's like, look, it's, it's a public site, you know, there's no like first come, first serve kind of thing, you know? We don't like to introduce rules until rules are required, so, yep, exactly right. But yeah, these are very large, so you don't really need to worry about. Oh, like somebody got to this first and whatever, like there's big fucking rocks in here and tons of people can show up and all mine it, right?
Kazanir:
Yeah. If you get to the site first, activate it.
Snipereagle1:
Not for the fleet.
Kazanir:
Exactly.
Ranger Gama:
Run rocks like 26 million M3 i, I assume that's satire from you, but.
Zintage Enaka:
No, no, it's correct. No, that's correct.
Ranger Gama:
It really is. There's one, Jesus Christ.
Snipereagle1:
They're fucking massive.
Kazanir:
Right? There's four, there's four moon size rocks.
Zintage Enaka:
Oh, my God.
Snipereagle1:
Spodzilla is back.
Zintage Enaka:
Keep in mind, you can't mine all of these at the same time.
Ranger Gama:
Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, sniper mentioned the thing moving through, but wow. Okay. I clearly have not paid attention to that because it was on SISI and I didn't get a chance to get on there and do it. So.
Angry Mustache:
Yeah. So remember the, when we set the site as a limited time, the later the time the bigger the rocks, so, but also that's the longer people know it's been there, so it's gonna be more people harassing you.
Ranger Gama:
Mm-hmm. Is Rorqual mining back then? Is there a size limitation on the ships that go into those?
Kazanir:
No. I know course will be useful, but you don't wanna do waste on this. I don't think.
Snipereagle1:
Well, I don't even know that like waste would be a problem, but I don't think the new crit mechanic applies to excavators. I don't know, but I don't think this really changes anything with how Rorquals are used. Like Rorquals are boosters now. This site doesn't change that.
Zintage Enaka:
Yeah. Are you, you're not gonna go back to just. Unless you're doing ice mining with a bunch of Rorquals and even if you are doing ice, you gotta be really careful now that the Cenotaph exists, because it's much harder to handle a pile Rorquals than it used to be.
Ranger Gama:
I'll say, and somebody was saying that drones don't get critical buffs on the test server. So that would imply, as for me, CCP doesn't change that, that the Rorquals would not be used in that mode. Just the booster, as was mentioned.
Apple Pear:
Yeah. I wonder how that criting is working with my ice mining those like. That's the only mining I do.
Ranger Gama:
Okay. Any other questions?
Snipereagle1:
Yeah.
Ranger Gama:
Yeah, go ahead.
Snipereagle1:
We got that preview of those sites. There's some other changes that they teased as well. Like there's new like mining destroyers and like a faction venture. It's not super clear what the use of those is gonna be. 'cause like the mining command destroyer doesn't have compression, so it's probably more for like day tripping into a wormhole or something and not something that we'll see. A lot of stuff is.
Angry Mustache:
It's doing good for gas, but not so, not for us.
Snipereagle1:
It's, you know, it's pretty easy to, it's not that hard to get into a barge and, and even like a, like a T1 barge, not an exhumer will mine so much more than the destroyers do. So who knows, maybe the stats will get a, get an adjustment. But yeah, we'll see. There's probably gonna be other stuff in the expansion as well. There's a new Sister's of EVE ship that looks really cool. I don't know that I'd have a use for one, but I'd probably buy one because it looks sick.
Zintage Enaka:
It's pretty hot looking.
Snipereagle1:
Yeah, it looks amazing.
Ranger Gama:
That is something to keep in mind guys. We've still got a couple of weeks left before this expansion hits, you know, the main server hits TQ. CCP is famous or notorious, take your pick for changing things like from when SISI was open to when they put it onto TQ. So just keep that in mind that until it actually hits the server, we won't know what these sites and what these stats look like exactly. We've got an idea right now, but the exact things we won't know until it actually hits the server. Those are us who have been around long enough have been burned more than once from CCP altering something. So we tend to be a little more bitter vet-y like that. But you know, it happens.
Snipereagle1:
I do appreciate that, like things that are like feature changes and less like balance changes are things that they're like getting more comfortable with teasing ahead of time 'cause
Ranger Gama:
Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
Snipereagle1:
In the past they would put out patch notes like. Or talk about like, oh, this is what's gonna happen in an expansion. And then for like a month leading up to it, the market would just be a bloodbath. 'cause people would be like, you know, speculating on things and whatnot. And obviously you can speculate with less information, but they used to make it very easy to be like, oh, they're gonna change how minerals refined. So I'm just gonna go like buy all kinds of ore off the market and sit on it. And then people are like, I can't build anything. But, uh. I like that the feature stuff, they're, you know, kind of putting it out there, seeing what people think doing mass tests, so
Ranger Gama:
Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. For sure. And that's totally reasonable there, Sniper. Absolutely. I may, I may or may not have been burned in one of those previously, so.
All right. Any other questions for anybody? Or we'll call it a Saturday there. I think we got everything, man.
Zintage Enaka:
Sounds like a very long-winded way to go say go vote.
Ranger Gama:
Yes, it's, it is Saturday. Go vote as Kaz did, exactly as the state has told you. We will see you all next week. So have a good week guys. Enjoy your weekend. There's the stuff. Load, incursion move op, when? That's up to the incursion guys. So look to the incursion guys for that one. All right, everybody. Enjoy your Saturday, Cheerio, all the things. We'll see you all next week.
