Fireside Chat Transcript 21 Jun 2k21
From Goon Wiki
Alrighty, I've been given official permission to start the fireside because Jeremy Joringer has his beer. Which is excellent. So now that he's got his beer we're gonna go ahead and get started. So here's the deal. First and foremost, I want people to recognize that we have been doing this now officially for a little bit more than a year. I think that this is the year anniversary of our idiot enemies getting together and announcing the thing that we've told everyone they would be announcing. Last year. If you rejoined because you heard the sound of the horn, a little bit of a story time here for context. Of course, we knew that the enemy was gonna get together and form the largest blue donut in the history of gaming because ProGodLegend can't keep his mouth shut and thus we were able to hear through the grapevine and through our spy network that this was coming. As you guys recall, we withdrew from Cloud Ring and we lost a couple Titans because we have so many Titans that you're always gonna lose a couple Titans. We need to do a move up and then nevertheless a little bit later the treaty with Legacy expired and they attacked us exactly as we said that they were going to do. Apparently despite the fact that we had this move up with all of those Titans coming back from Cloud Ring, they genuinely believed that they had more than us and that they would have almost a thousand Titans to bring against us. Well, fast forward a year and here we are. It's pretty fucking insane when you look at the entire scope of this shitshow. And one of the things that I want to talk about today is that it's important to keep that perspective in mind. Right now we're in a very good place because we're in a position where we are contained and things are generally heading in a direction that we're happy with. You know, I can say everything is sunshine and roses, but it's pretty close to sunshine and roses here. Like I'm very pleased with the way in which we've degraded the enemy's forces and I'm very pleased with the way in which things have gone relatively according to plan. But as we are in this situation and as we are in the containment phase, it's important to step back and look at this and recognize that this thing that we have been involved in for a year now or in the cases of those Black Hand agents and people who are preparing for this before we announced the withdrawal from Cloud Ring a little bit more than a year now, that this is one of the most unique fuckfests in the history of online gaming. Right? There's good days, there's bad days, things go right, things go wrong. But let us never forget that here we are a year into this fuckfest fighting the entire goddamn galaxy all at the same time. Right? And I want you guys to remind yourselves of that. If you ever forget in between ganking Roarquals, having them jump into our beacons, hunting every other brave fucking supercarrier that comes through, that we've been doing this for a year fighting the entire galaxy all at the same time. And I think that you guys should feel free to jack yourselves off a little about that because holy fucking shit, if you zoom all the way back and look how long it's been, if you look at the start of this war when the enemy was putting 800 pilots or more on the field against us op after op after op and then you see what they're doing today. They are in that position because you fought them. They are in that position because you went on the line. They are in that position because you refused to give up. Even if the entire galaxy came at you, you said fuck you, no. I'm gonna find my friends, I'm gonna find anybody that was part of this thing That might be missing out and get them here so that they can man the fucking walls with us and you did that and that's Why we are here, so the accomplishment all this discussion on reddit all this discussion on talk shows It's always about personalities. It's like though the Italian are really your pro Right at the end of the day the only reason why we are here and that we have survived and thrived Is because of you glorious motherfuckers a year I think the entire galaxy There has never been anything like this in the history of video games There's been never anything like this in the history of the internet what you motherfuckers have pulled off thus far cuz it ain't over Thus far is something that is going to be studied for years Possibly decades at this rate because eve online It's a game where you get written up in history books and Academics and grad students will write their theses on stuff that you guys have done This is only possible because of you and your willingness to fight in your refusal To bend the knee to these fucking blue donut puppies So I want to thank you all and remember credit where it's due The only reason why we are here is because you motherfuckers have managed to do this and held the fucking line for more than a Year, and that's that's kind of a big deal I think that you know It's an aspect of this war that gets lost in it is the sheer scale the scope of it and where things were 12 months ago versus where things are today, so We want to talk about in terms of practicalities as it stands right now I'm pretty happy with the situation that we're looking at we are contained in the 1dq1 constellation If I had to pick a place for the enemy to lose this war the gates of Gundor is the place, right? I think one of the reasons why we're seeing such a drop-off in the PCU isn't just the fact that CCP is dumb and bad and fuck things up with a scarcity thing though. That is a huge part of it Or that they are dumb and bad and it fuck things up with the the cloaking nerf though That is also part of it, but I think a real chunk of this is the fact that You know the blue donut has broken at the gates of Gundor. I'm kind of surprised that we stopped them at 3d You know in terms of like war planning I expected to stop them I expected to win this or I wouldn't have banked everything we had on this motherfucker But I expected they would have at least gotten through maybe 3d or in 8 or you know something like they would have nibbled on the fucking constellation a little bit as opposed to getting cock blocked so hard at the fucking gates of 3d that they had to make themselves another fucking excuse keepstar If you look through the history of the war again zooming all the way back for a year that there have been a number of situations where our august foes Have run out of ideas and the only thing that they know how to do is to just drop an excuse keepstar to make themselves feel good, I'm delighted that they did that with t5 and for all of the reasons why Initiative putting a keepstar in 3 tech D was bad and dumb and wrong and they talked about how dumb and wrong it was for us to put a keepstar in 3d for a Couple weeks then they put a mirror one on the exact other side and that was smart and good play and you know very good on them amazing big brain strategic thought as If we would be so dumb as to begin our fucking counter-attack into 3d I? Mean into ev it's it's it's it is so Hilarious I'm delighted that they're still doing it I invite them to put down more crab stars that we can then blow up later regardless Things are going really well. I only have good things to say to people here, and then well You know we'll take some questions one of the things that I want to Just continue to encourage is ganking the shit out of the puppies Join in Gsa you guys have seen all of these fucking hood rat fleets that cache and the gang have been sending out on stop And if you total up the amount of losses that the enemy has experienced again remember This is the scarcity era right so suddenly when they're losing a supercarrier or some brave guy losing a supercarrier brave guy losing a fucking Rorqual or something Good luck getting that back. I mean some of them are rich. I guess but regardless I want to give some specific gold shot gold stars here Case of course obviously Polish pistol kimchi love vex to snipe I don't know if I should say vex t sniper vex sniper what pipe and Dear old our dear sweet boy Luke look to her But you guys have been doing a fantastic job of ganking things and we really want to encourage that and I'm being informed by the ads that we are killing a rorqual literally right now FYI So for those of you that are gonna be listening to the fireside later because you're busy killing one of these fucking rorquals high-fives all around Delva safe Delva safe if you're one of the hostiles listening to this remember delve is safe all right So that's going great Essentially what I'm sure you've seen over the last little bit is is that we're in a position where our enemies are now those of Us that are not in fighting or accepting the fact that they have lost this war They are busy talking about how either we're contained or they're talking about how We should be attacking t5zi Excuse me. I was stuffing my face with breakfast here in a second second ago, and that just almost went down the wrong hole har har har the Where was I containment and oh? So I've talked about this on previous firesides And you can see that the enemy is screaming about how we should be attacking t5zi You can see that the enemy is talking about how we should be attacking them in a way that they want In a way that they approve of we are never going to dance to the enemy's tune That's one of the reasons why we're winning this thing and they're losing it And I have said this before in firesides. I'm just gonna keep repeating it the morale keepstar situation and t5zi And in yz9 that's the enemy's golden bridge of retreat We are not going to be attacking those things until last Just so everybody knows because I think that t5zi is the best thing that has ever happened to us in this war with the possible Exception of m2 and some of the other greatest hits it's a huge overreach And I think it does really bad things to the enemy So we want t5zi keepstar to stay as long as the enemy is here that thing is gonna die dead last And I've said this on firesides before I just want to reiterate this to you guys Because unlike our enemy who blew up our golden bridge of retreat we are not complete and total dumbasses So that's cool. I am delighted by the way in which we have been getting the shit out of them I'm delighted by the way in which Eve excuse me delve is perfectly safe And they don't know what to do at a fundamental level They don't know what to do because the only thing that our enemy really realizes what to do when shit's wrong is drop a morale keepstar maybe invent some sort of stupid doctrine like harpies or Do something with Abaddon's? And then what they like to do is they like to play against whatever I say on a fireside and we noticed this a while Back, it's something I should have noticed years and years ago But the truth is is that it was only really Skull-fucking Lee obvious to my poor simple little mitten brain that after we published the whole thing about the doom clock that if I just Don't tell the enemy what our big plan is They don't know what the fuck to do if it's not spelled out on a fireside They can't play against it if I say hey guys We're gonna do blah blah blah blah blah on a fireside They will go oh that gives us something to do that gives us something to respond to the Mitani said we're gonna do that And so we're gonna we're gonna stop him. We're gonna stop goons so after the doom clock situation We simply stopped publishing what our plans were gonna be so we're not gonna be saying oh god We're gonna start a counteroffensive. We're not gonna say we're gonna do this We're not gonna say we're gonna do that. We're gonna do our thing We're not gonna give them any sort of free intel about what we're gonna be playing against what they're gonna be playing against and In the meantime just keep murdering these guys just gank the living shit out of them every week. I rate that they're going Their morale loss is significant enough that I think it is valuable for us to essentially just keep harassing them keep ganking them keep making Them suffer outside of the gates of fortress del they finally got to fortress delve congratulations dumbasses And then they immediately shout and piss themselves and are looking for excuses and crying for the mods and the devs to save them so Great high fives all around keep murdering them Gank the puppies join in GSA and keep helping out when you see these fleets going out with Bombers and kikis and other fun things get in on that shit because it is scarcity Eve the puppies are running out of ISK I believe and that they also are running out of the capacity to replenish these kinds of capital losses Just because CCP is nerfed cap production into the fucking ground congratulations. I'm killing that work by the way Hail Satan, that's exactly what I'm talking about obviously delve is safe, and we are contained I Do want to give a brief shout out for everybody to for voting on the CSM. We're gonna find out tomorrow I believe when who won what on the CSM silly season election and Then there's one other thing that I want to apparently that guy died twice today. It's pretty fucking ridiculous One of the other things that I was asked to hearth about by dear old angry mustache Let me bring this up one of the things that the enemy is busy telling each other is that we are contained and that As part of us being contained that they're gonna try to starve us out of making ISK now. I don't know How or why or how viable that is it's what they're talking about doing and in about 10 minutes I think that there's gonna be a legacy town hall So we're gonna get the latest her from them as to whatever their excuses are But if you are concerned about ISK or if it's is an issue for some reason. I don't know you know again This is a situation. We've been in functionally speaking for a year now, but do check out the thread that I linked There's a bunch of resources. We don't want anybody worried about is we want to make sure that people are helping each other out Same shit different month in terms of grinding the puppies into a fucking fine paste and making sure that our own people are taken care of so check that out and If you need help, please ask for help if you have questions, please ask questions Speaking of asking questions I'm gonna go ahead and take some fireside questions because That we are so contained that I can just do Q&A without any sort of big You know the certainly I guess It's just guys It's just it's a fucking joke that they got here and they gave up so easily Like they just they believed in their bullshit to the very fucking last and was only at this very end that they just you know They just lost the fucking plot I mean their strategy sucked to begin with thank God I'm glad their strategy sucked because if you're fighting the entire galaxy all at once goddamn year You want them to fuck up? You know, let's say let's not make it even Even more difficult for us, but goddamn. Alrighty, what we got? How many times did our enemies do this shit? I don't know. What should you're talking about? There's been a variety of different History repeating itself situations here one of those that we have learned ever since Old school story time since we do have so many people that rejoined from the the Great War era In the very early days of goon fleet. We of course wanted to be good galactic citizens We wanted to be good little boys and girls. We had like gotten ourselves It was a big accomplishment to be on the ascendant frontier like diplomatic standings list and we were like blue with Askin and we were Like finally gonna be taken seriously as like real people in the galaxy and then the moment that we touched cloud ring and actually started getting a seat at the table then suddenly it became time for Bob to be offended about Tetsujin signature and You know, there are no goons. Goodbye and all that shit sort of came from there so one of the things we have learned over the history of the last ever since 2006 is That every four to five years all of the puppies will drop what they're doing to do exactly this now in the Fountain War They talked they didn't use the extermination language Though they would have if they wanted to I think or if they thought that they could actually get rid of us The casino or they didn't use extermination language But the actions were always the same and this time around they just went full pro-god and here we are. So You know, this is just something that we have always baked into our Empire plans We know that the puppies will always try to get rid of us no matter what we do fair or unfair They will always try to purge us. And so we are always baking that into our plans. So as we go about When we do start official counter offensive things, which is not going to be officially declared on it on a fireside. That's for fucking sure I am excited about baking improved defenses into our Our plans but we will burn that bridge when we come to it One of the things that I have found highly entertaining is watching Vili try to make excuses for things that he said And things that pro-god said it has been pretty much all over our eve instead of actually trying to purge 1dq1 Or deliver on all the promises that he made He is busy trying to act like oh You just need to listen to the context of the what the what the games Journalists said after my direct quote what the games journalist wrote in the polygon article that wasn't a direct quote But him editorializing is what was actually going on Vili being a thin-skinned little dick bitch is Desperate to get away from the failures and the consequences of the things that he said he wrote a lot of fucking checks with his Mouth that his ass can't cash and here we are So I find that particularly interesting just I've noticed that in the last couple weeks that little bitch is just desperate to get away from Quotes of things that he himself said on town halls and to games journalists So if you want to keep stabbing him with that go do it because he's a little bitch and we're never gonna let him forget It and I think it's just funny. He could have just said yeah, I said that but nope. He's a bitch There's a question here from tripping Ted tripping Which is a pretty good question about using small gangs relative number of shifts blah blah blah with preventing them from driving or mining in peace join in GSA and Join the when you see a fleet pinged out for bombers join it because you're gonna get a cap or super cap kill Any comment on the subtle differences between extermination and war of extermination explained by Vili in the between two keep stars stream? You know, the funny thing is I don't even know if that's a joke or not because it sounds so fucking dumb It's exactly the kind of thing that Billy would do look Here's one of the things when you're dealing with a like a line by a line One of the biggest little dick bitch moves that mr. Fourth place likes to make is he will try to drag people into arguments Why don't you prove when I said that and you see this over and over again Hope that's his his default state just attack him. He's a little bitch He knows he's a little bitch and he wants to drag you into some sort of dumb line-by-line argument When the reality is you just give the little bitch the finger and say it doesn't matter what excuses you make we don't care We know what you said We know what you tried to do and we will never let anybody in this stupid fucking game. Forget it Eat shit. That's how you deal with it. I'm a love by Jordan Peterson impression. Thank you *laughs* Happy Father's Day. That's a good point. Let me see what else we got here There are several questions about are we gonna strike jump gates? Are we gonna do this? Are we gonna do that in terms of attack? I'm sure you guys know the drill by now, but I'm gonna give you your free bingo bait That would be a future plans question All of these things about what we're gonna be attacking or not attacking Are things that we're not gonna be revealing on a fireside Your questions seem like they are all coming from a good place in terms of like hey, that's a good idea But it's a good idea to the point that we might already be doing it one and two If we were we would lie about it or deny it on the fireside. All right, let's see what we got Shout out to the ADM boys. Yeah, so this is something that's super important I'm really glad that I'm gonna try to say your name, but you know, I'm gonna fuck it up Lorraine de Tila Ty Till Moran day Anyway, I tried ADM fleets are super important Things that we have and I'm gonna hearth about this a little bit because Since the enemy is spinning their wheels like they are just pissing and shitting themselves at the gates of fortress delve They don't know what to do. Their leaders don't know what to do. It is right now a crabs-in-a-bucket blame game That's one of the reasons why Vili is trying so hard to spin and whine and make excuses For his the shit that he said repeatedly when he thought he was gonna win this bitch Is that while these guys piss and shit of themselves at the front of fortress delve? We need to make absolutely certain that the 1dq1 constellation which they are currently failing to do anything with stays at max ADM at all times so as the war Transitions to a phase where we are ganking the shit out of the puppies at every opportunity and they are pissing and shitting themselves of The walls of fortress delve we do need to make sure that the walls of fortress delve are as secure as possible So, please please please please please do join in and participate in the ADM fleets in these more quiet phases of the war quiet in Terms of the enemy pissing and shitting themselves and making excuses instead of attacking us Well, we gank the shit out of them that kind of phase of the war We don't want to lose track of the ADM's and suddenly whoops We had the hubris and we didn't do what was necessary and then oh gee we pissed away victory You know snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Let's not do that. So please do join the ADM fleets It's also a great way if you're like interested if you're FC curious and like you want to just see what it's like to get Out there and try to do something and not necessarily super combat situation. It's a great introduction I cannot emphasize that enough. So I appreciate you bringing that up such that I can hearf a little bit about ADM fleets Let's see questions. I'm guessing that test is next is a bingo card because I've got a question here about is frat next We're not going to talk about who is next next who is next next next next next or what have you? We're here in delve. Obviously test is next there is I Think that it is unwise to describe the priorities on our Vengeance list right? Everybody knows we have a vengeance list. It's something we have always had and done Test is number one on that vengeance list And then who goes where and the priority order is something that I don't want to disclose on a fireside But I mean if you guys have been with us for any length of time, you know how we roll We don't fuck around if these people decide that they want to be blood enemies of us and say that they're gonna Exterminate goons for him and all of our friends and how dare we be friends with each other and how dare you know? Maybe the leader of the Imperium like gosh It's so awful the puppies are going to make demands of us and we are going to remember those demands and then we will hold them accountable when Their time on the the list is next so it should be fun Would I say that this stage of the war is a cold war? I would say no I mean it's interesting because I'm so I'm generally happy with the like I just in terms of narratives and hearse like I'm gonna put this out here. So that's a really good question here Obviously, it's not a cold war because we're shooting each other obviously, it's not a cold war because they're losing morale They're losing people and we're still here after fighting the entire galaxy for a goddamn year all at once So that's cool. It's obviously not a cold war Obviously we are not contained But I think it's actually really good for us To have Vili and Piggles and Marcus Murphy and all of these people saying cold war saying containment all this other sort of stuff I think it's a dangerous narrative for them to use and it's a dangerous narrative to the point that I'm Confident saying this on a fireside because they're not gonna listen to me and change their tune the reason why it's dumb and bad is that it implies to their members that delve is safe and this is all under control and that they don't have to worry about anything and then when they actually log on and get in fleets and then they have the op after op after op that forms out of t5zi is Diverted to go like shoot an athanor in 8rq Which is just like Wibbles Wibbles athanors in 8rq have become like the snooze button of this war essentially what happens every single time is that they have kept a couple of structures around and available such that when they form up a Strat off and they realize that they can't actually do what they had maybe wanted to do to begin with or that they're just going Through the motions that they can then go hit the snooze button and go. Oh, well, hey guys, we're gonna go do this We're gonna go shoot here. We're clearing out delve or you know, clearing out delve. Delve is safe. Da da da And they never actually blow the damn thing up because they don't want the damn thing to actually get blown up because then that removes their excuses from slamming into 3d or 1dq1 So if they want to keep doing excuse structure shots While telling their members that we are contained and that thus delve is safe Which allows us to gank their carriers It allows us to gank their super carriers allows us to gank their work walls and in the scarcity area era when these guys are like We're starting to run on empty like I can't say which specific specific one of the the the sappy alliances are gonna run out of Isk first but it seems pretty clear that they are beginning to run out of is there's a really interesting piece of intelligence that Came out on I think it was trash talk Tuesday this week and Sandra and stone Admitted that and I don't know how many of them were sold, but I think this is significant Sandra and stone admitted to big bill the boss that test had sold faction forts Their faction forts were not blown up right because the when a faction for it is blown up We used all the ones that we had as speed bumps to you know win the war against the entire goddamn galaxy all at once They unanchored a bunch of them ruining their priceless rigs in the process And since their war bond drive failed and we know it failed because they were unable to reimburse 15 plus of the m2 Titan We now have some confirmation in public that tests old at least some of their faction for desires In order to try to pay off their debts, which they still failed to pay off because not all those Titans got reimbursed so this is a very interesting situation for us strategically because While the enemy is still insisting that we are contained and it's a cold war and they're all a bunch of winners and goons or losers And you know da da da da da all of their squitting excuses. We keep seeing evidence of genuine bleed-out now I don't think that Vili or ProGod give a shit about anybody. I know Absolutely for a fact that Vili and ProGod only care about Vili and ProGod. They don't care about each other They only care about themselves who they are as people and they don't give a shit about tests They sort of were floating block level FC's who sort of attached themselves to test because you know They want to be big fish in a small pond And I think that this is fantastic for us because essentially what you're seeing now is is that Vili and ProGod are going to be Delighted to basically sell off tests inheritance their crown jewels Getting rid of their bankroll whatever analogy you want to you know, they're gonna get test to You know sell off their 401k They're gonna get a second and a third mortgage or whatever Vili and ProGod don't give a shit about test Alliance and that's great I love it. I love t5zi I I love them selling test faction for desires like these guys are going to drink every last drop of tests milkshake Trying to get rid of us. They're gonna fail to get rid of us and then ProGod and Vili will just find themselves in another Alliance. Maybe they'll join pan fam Who knows cares the important thing is that they don't give a shit about test Alliance, please ignore They don't give a shit about their line members and that is evidenced by the fact that they are willing to sell Regions worth of faction for desires while they just slam themselves into the woodchipper and that's kind of the beauty of this situation here While they are waiting for us to announce a counteroffensive or something such that they can then hurt people and say oh the baton He says they're going on a counteroffensive. So we're gonna stop that which so we're not gonna announce it We're just gonna do it at some point. Maybe it's already started who even knows but I'm not gonna say it on a fireside What while they're doing that these guys are just you know Stripping the copper wiring out of the walls to sell it for a chance to do something or other, you know, they're they I Love it. I Love the fact that they're at a point where they dropped another keepstar the other day The EV keepstar thing is just so amazing. It like it encapsulates the level of leadership We're seeing on the other side so well I think because after like two weeks of saying oh was so dumb for goons and the initiative put to put down another keep star the game in 3d they mirror exactly what we did on the other side and Gobbins is making these excuses about how a strategic genius like they are spinning their wheels while we gank the shit out of them and We shove all the things that they said about us down their throats and I'm loving it. I'm perfectly happy to keep here doing this for as long as As long as it takes as X up points out it's a it's it's the - this is this is genius Especially because I talk about this shit all the time So I'm biased it might not just be genius. It's not genius necessarily, but it Makes my my dumb ass think it's clever is the the monkey keep star It really is they drop a lot of - he keep stars, but it doesn't get as as Explicit as a - e V keep star in in eevee questions here Did the test line members get brainwashed? I mean, I think that up until last month all the puppies had a reasonable expectation that we would fold and break They don't really understand us and that's fine. I don't want them to understand us I don't want to like be like here's a manual to explain how the Imperium actually works sociologically speaking I'm delighted that they don't understand us and I'm fucking delighted that they were brainwashed They believed just like their leadership did that we would give up that we would run for sarin and that we wouldn't stand and fight Because they never believed it when I said in the casino or that the only reason why we withdrew a sarin and is Obvious that we would never be able to attack their source of cheated Unattackable income and that the only way out of that solution was to essentially throw in the towel to and then CCB banned the casinos They thought that was just excuses But unfortunately for them that was the reality is that I saw that we could not win In a scenario where the enemy had an unattackable infinite source of isk due to people's gambling addictions The casinos got banned and I've been delighted with this war because it's an opportunity to show what I believe to be true from the beginning Which is is that we could fight the entire fucking galaxy all at once that we could do this and that we could win it against all of them if they didn't have their fucking casino cheats and Lo and behold here we are and they haven't even cracked three tech D yet. So This war is not over by any means I'm happy to keep ganking their carriers and super carriers and watching them bleed out financially and morale wise For as long as it takes like if they are want to complain about how they don't like the course of the war They want to complain about the lack of you know activities on their side Then maybe they shouldn't have blue to the entire galaxy to try to make the game serenity 2.0 And we should never let him forget it and we will never let him forget it Our guys are entertained because we're murdering these guys all day every day and the guys that wanted it This is the other thing that's great Is the guys of those of us who like really burn the candle at both ends that needed kind of a break to like go Off to our fuck palaces or take little vacations or stuff While the enemy is talking about containment in Cold War that's giving the defenders a chance to recharge, right? Okay, great High-fives all around so the bad guys are doing their town hall now. We're gonna get some intel on that I'm sure everything is fine that goons are contained. But yeah back to my original point I got slightly distracted by making fun of them Which is very a challenge for me my ADHD gets set off and then I start talking shit about Ville and making funny voices But to the original question was the containment Cold War narrative I think that that is a good narrative for us I want to encourage the sappy posters to keep talking about the Cold War and how we're contained because it is directly at odds with the lived experience of their pilots that log on and Get murdered by us all day every day like their line pilots and t5zi who are still joining these fleets Understand it is not a Cold War. They understand that we are not contained So when they then see on these talk shows their supposed leaders parroting obvious lies That's great and I think we've seen the effect that's had on their morale because their numbers keep going down because their leaders keep publicly lying about the situation and refusing to acknowledge it because their leaders are more interested in trying to convince the rest of Eve that they have actually won when they're busy losing the thing and they're busy the losing the thing when they had Every single advantage that they could possibly had they had the entire galaxy all together For a year now and here they are and the best they can do is containment and Cold War. Good luck. God bless Please talking about please keep talking about how we're contained. Please keep talking about how it's a cold war. I love it I love it. Their line members hate it. It's great. It's fantastic for us We're totally contained Delva safe and in fact Maybe we should talk about how we're contained and how Delva safe because if we talk about how we're contained in Delva safe Maybe more of them will undock their fucking supercarriers and work walls for us to gank I don't know. I mean you guys just roll with it. However, you feel but remember Delve is perfectly safe There's no reason for them not to undock because gosh, we're we're just so contained. I feel so contained It's not really how I roll but You know, I can see the appeal for some people Some people like to get tied up I'm not gonna kink shame internally if I had to describe this phase of the war the reality of this phase of the war the ground truth of this phase Of the war is we have fortress delve and it's fucking great with our sort of last Constellation here at the gates of the Imperial Palace. They're in front of the gates pissing and shitting themselves and Outside of that it's welcome to the rice fields motherfucker Like that's that's literally like this is the rice fields phase of the war. It ain't the Cold War phase It is the VC bees phase if you're old-school, you remember give missile or bump We are in some serious VCB territory here, except that now Our VC bees are not flying frigates. They're flying bombers and Kiki Morris So, yeah the the floodplains, you know, what's a floodplain if you think about it It's a rice patty and those are our rice patties and they're in them. So they should get the fuck out Alrighty. Let me take a look for questions in general before I stop ranting and making silly voices in front of you all and Question for dragon zero. Did they ever have the super cap advantage? No and they knew they didn't have the super cap advantage because one of the reasons in 2019 we sent 1100 Titans north to burn tribute and They immediately Uprooted and left to a deeper phase of the part of the drone regions and see dot did so, you know Vince Draykin and the NC dot guys knew exactly that they that we had 1100 Titans Pro God and Vili and Gobbins I guess just assumed that that number was bullshit or that maybe that would have gone away because we're all just crabs and We always had the super cab advantage. That's why from the beginning guys If you remember I said we're gonna do this We're gonna be grinding grinding grinding grinding to sort of get their numbers down get their numbers close to parity And then there's gonna be a couple of big super cap fights You know, we tried the inho thing that didn't work then we did the m2 thing twice and it did work and then there would be some camping and We did exactly what I said. We were gonna do there were some camping and then You know bit more thrashing they did a bit more thrashing and now we're here we are Really kind of happy with it all the way around but no we always had the super capital advantage Which is another one of the other reasons why their strategy was so fucking dumb Alrighty, I think that is going to be it for me today. I want to appreciate I want to thank you all for coming and listening I will be here again next week same time same channel and we will have met a show and things like that normal next week yeah, keep on keeping on keep ganging these bitches and high-fives all around Let's get back out there